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Heel pain #6389641
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Who has this and what was the cause? I have heel pain across the bottom of both heels. I am calling the doc today to get an appointment. From what I have been reading, plantar facitis does not fit the symptoms. Bending toes does not cause pain, which comes with weight bearing only. The only thing I know, is that it makes for some miserable days at work! I finally found some relief from my back pain, by getting facet joint injections, and now my running gear starts in.


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Re: Heel pain [Re: hrdtoflw] #6389669
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It sounds like plantar facitis to me. I've had it multiple times over the years and it used to last a long time until I figured out a cure.

I bought this device:

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When I had heel pain real bad I started wearing it at night. Within two weeks my pain was gone. The first time I used it I had plantar facitis for over six months before finding and using this device.

It's called a Bird and Cronin Night Splint. I bought mine on Amazon. It works.


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Re: Heel pain [Re: hrdtoflw] #6389690
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Sounds like plantar facitis to me also. I have it occasionally and stretching is the most effective treatment I have found. I have spent more on off the shelf shoe liners and pads than the above stretching device costs. I will be ready for it if I have another flare up.


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Re: Heel pain [Re: hrdtoflw] #6389698
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Yep just recently had planters fasciitis been going to a foot doctor. The best treatment for me is stretching excises works wonder, had a cortisone shot in my heel talk about pain, it would make the toughest man cry lol


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Re: Heel pain [Re: QuietButDeadly] #6389702
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I've learned to do my light stretches first thing in the morning even when I'm not having pain. If I feel the beginnings of plantar facitis I'll get serious about stretching.

I haven't had to wear the night splint in more than two years now.


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Re: Heel pain [Re: hrdtoflw] #6389705
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Yep, sure sounds like it. Not sure the supposed connection with bending toes, never heard of that one. Cortizone shot never helped me, and hurt like CRAZY. Stretching was the biggest help for me.

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Thanks for the replies! I am going to see the foot doctor to get it figured out. I want to know for sure, what it is, then go from there. I have been buing insoles for my shoes, boots etc, and it just does not go away. Thanks again!


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Re: Heel pain [Re: hrdtoflw] #6389724
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The inserts never helped me at all.


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Re: Heel pain [Re: hrdtoflw] #6389730
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Had it some time ago....feels like someone hit the bottom of your feet with a baseball bat.....had to crawl to the bathroom in the morning...then after a while it would loosen up. It went away on its own.


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I wear Red Wing Boots with the kicked up insoles .......about 325.00 worth. Iam on a concrete floor all day too. And,I get a new pair of boots every 12-15 months ...even if they have plenty of sole left on them....the cushion system is just spent....with 255 pounds on them.


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Re: Heel pain [Re: M.Magis] #6389748
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Originally Posted by M.Magis
Yep, sure sounds like it. Not sure the supposed connection with bending toes, never heard of that one. Cortizone shot never helped me, and hurt like CRAZY. Stretching was the biggest help for me.

The muscles that curl your toes downward (flexion) are not intrinsic to the foot, they originate in the calf, so their tendons necessarily course with the fascia on the plantar surface of the foot and contribute to the fascia's tightness.
Your fascia normally acts as a bit of an extension spring, preserving the foot's natural arch and absorbing mechanical shock and lessening the flattening of your arch. Since it attaches the heel bone to the toes' bases, it will stress at the heel when you overload it with overuse or abuse, e.g. excessive running, obesity, prolonged standing. Think of the foot's naturally arched configuration as a sort of inverted truck leafsping without a shackle, and the fascia as a stiff frame: an excess load would lengthen the spring and stress the attachment points.
One word: stretch. There are no doubt plenty of calf and toe stretches online; just be patient, consistent, and gentle. Do not bounce.
Insole arch supports can also help stretch the fascia and remodel the arch, and you need not spend a fortune.


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Re: Heel pain [Re: hrdtoflw] #6389752
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Red wings are a joke. I bought some that didn't have arch support. You need good arch support. My doc told me to buy merrel Moab. I do feel your pain.


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Re: Heel pain [Re: hrdtoflw] #6389753
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I got a Dr scholls insert for 50$ at Walmart, helped a lot, and a rolling foot massager is very helpful

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Mofarmboy, you sound like your on the right track.


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Re: Heel pain [Re: hrdtoflw] #6389766
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I don't have plantar fasciitis, but my wife does. I've been watching this guy's videos for quite a while. I know the things I have adapted for back surgery damage and a broken knee have helped quite a bit. Hopefully this one helps you guys. I just sent this to my wife over the weekend. This guy is a physical therapist and personal trainer. I've been through physical therapy at many locations, never found a guy this good in person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72p58Iy6u7M

Re: Heel pain [Re: MoFarmBoy] #6389777
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Originally Posted by MoFarmBoy
The muscles that curl your toes downward (flexion) are not intrinsic to the foot, they originate in the calf, so their tendons necessarily course with the fascia on the plantar surface of the foot and contribute to the fascia's tightness.
Your fascia normally acts as a bit of a spring, preserving the foot's natural arch and absorbing mechanical shock and lessening the flattening of your arch. Since it attaches the heel bone to the toes' bases, it will stress at the heel when you abuse it with overuse or abuse. Think of the fascia as a sort of inverted truck leafsping without a shackle: an excess load would lengthen the spring and stress the attachment points.
One word: stretch. There are no doubt plenty of calf and toe stretches online; just be patient, consistent, and gentle. Do not bounce.
Insole arch supports can also help stretch the fascia and remodel the arch, and you need not spend a fortune.


That is one of the most accurate and easily understandable descriptions of plantar fasciitis I have ever read, and I've studied and researched this infliction quite a bit.

The night splint I pictured above keeps the plantar fascia in a gently stretched position. Without it the plantar fascia tends to shrink while we are sleeping and the most damage, the most significant inflammation, is caused by those first few steps in the morning before the plantar fascia has a chance to stretch. That is also why regular stretching helps alleviate the pain. I do mine while still in bed and again immediately after my feet hit the floor.

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Re: Heel pain [Re: hrdtoflw] #6389781
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A tennis ball might work for a foot massager in a pinch. Physical therapist was mentioned. If you can't find a good physical therapist, I would recommend a Roller. Rolfers can be hard to find unless you live in a big city.

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Re: Heel pain [Re: hrdtoflw] #6389785
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Get an old fashioned glass Coke bottle, and roll it back and forth under your instep, while applying moderate down-pressure.


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Re: Heel pain [Re: hrdtoflw] #6389787
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Nice picture of the foot. It looks pretty real to life for me.


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Re: Heel pain [Re: hrdtoflw] #6389789
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Coke bottle? Really? I can't get past the mental picture of picking shards of glass out of my feet.


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