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GFI outlet and tumbler issues. #6388218 12/02/18 01:40 PM 12/02/18 01:40 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 313 New London, Wisconsin W WisTrapper OP trapper
WisTrapper OP trapper W Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 313 New London, Wisconsin	I have 3 phase motor with a variable frequency drive on my fur tumbler. It was working great, then I plugged it into a different outlet on the same circuit. Now it blows the GFI after 1 or 2 revolutions. What would be causing this and how do I fix it. Thanks in advance.

Re: GFI outlet and tumbler issues. [Re: WisTrapper] #6388223 12/02/18 01:45 PM 12/02/18 01:45 PM
Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 18,735 Green County Wisconsin G GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper
GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper G Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 18,735 Green County Wisconsin	the GFI is detecting voltage on ground , that is why they trip. if you were on a GFI before , one or the other gfi might be bad , they do go bad they do not last forever. Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 12/02/18 01:46 PM. America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.

Re: GFI outlet and tumbler issues. [Re: WisTrapper] #6388277 12/02/18 02:39 PM 12/02/18 02:39 PM
Joined: May 2010 Posts: 2,709 The great cage state Colorado M Monster Toms trapper
Monster Toms trapper M Joined: May 2010 Posts: 2,709 The great cage state Colorado	Normally there is one GFI per circuit I believe. Are there more appliances plugged into one or the other circuits that the tumbler is pushing them over the edge?

Re: GFI outlet and tumbler issues. [Re: WisTrapper] #6388727 12/02/18 10:58 PM 12/02/18 10:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,742 north central Kansas R RR 3 trapper
RR 3 trapper R Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,742 north central Kansas	I would like to see the size of your tumble if you need 3 phase (480 volts) to run!

Re: GFI outlet and tumbler issues. [Re: Monster Toms] #6388733 12/02/18 11:05 PM 12/02/18 11:05 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,632 Ohio, 55yrs old Pasadena trapper
Pasadena trapper Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,632 Ohio, 55yrs old	Originally Posted by Monster Toms Normally there is one GFI per circuit I believe. Are there more appliances plugged into one or the other circuits that the tumbler is pushing them over the edge? GFCI’s do not trip because of being overloaded, but because of detecting voltage on the ground.

Re: GFI outlet and tumbler issues. [Re: WisTrapper] #6388826 12/03/18 05:09 AM 12/03/18 05:09 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 313 New London, Wisconsin W WisTrapper OP trapper
WisTrapper OP trapper W Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 313 New London, Wisconsin	It's a 4 ftx2ft tumbler. I got the motor for free from my father in law, who is a stainless contractor for a meat processing plant.

Re: GFI outlet and tumbler issues. [Re: Monster Toms] #6388828 12/03/18 05:18 AM 12/03/18 05:18 AM
Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 1,500 Kenai AK K KenaiKid trapper
KenaiKid trapper K Joined: Nov 2015 Posts: 1,500 Kenai AK	Originally Posted by Monster Toms Normally there is one GFI per circuit I believe. Are there more appliances plugged into one or the other circuits that the tumbler is pushing them over the edge? Usually, but not always. Daisy-chaining GFI’s wasn’t always allowed or common. Wistrapper, is it 2 different GFI’s that it was plugged into, or the same one linked to the whole circuit? Originally Posted by Dirt Originally Posted by Rat Masterson Boco couldn't catch a cold. But if he did, it would be Top Lot.

Re: GFI outlet and tumbler issues. [Re: WisTrapper] #6388847 12/03/18 06:42 AM 12/03/18 06:42 AM
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vermontster trapper V Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 1,326 vermont	Check and see if the polarity is reversed on that outlet. The bitterness of poor quality last a lot longer than the sweetness of low price

Re: GFI outlet and tumbler issues. [Re: RR 3] #6388867 12/03/18 07:13 AM 12/03/18 07:13 AM
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,213 Ky J jbyrd63 trapper
jbyrd63 trapper J Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,213 Ky	Originally Posted by RR 3 I would like to see the size of your tumble if you need 3 phase (480 volts) to run! Don't have to be 480 volts to be 3 phase. Seen several 208 volt 3 ph motors. In fact unless its a factory or big business most places don't even have 277/480 panels.

Re: GFI outlet and tumbler issues. [Re: WisTrapper] #6388870 12/03/18 07:15 AM 12/03/18 07:15 AM
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,213 Ky J jbyrd63 trapper
jbyrd63 trapper J Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,213 Ky	Originally Posted by WisTrapper I have 3 phase motor with a variable frequency drive on my fur tumbler. It was working great, then I plugged it into a different outlet on the same circuit. Now it blows the GFI after 1 or 2 revolutions. What would be causing this and how do I fix it. Thanks in advance. Is this the first time you used it this year. If so the motor could be going bad. Sounds like the windings may be getting burnt inside the motor. Or as Green Pete stated the gfi could be going bad. Last edited by jbyrd63; 12/03/18 07:18 AM.

Re: GFI outlet and tumbler issues. [Re: vermontster] #6388871 12/03/18 07:17 AM 12/03/18 07:17 AM
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,213 Ky J jbyrd63 trapper
jbyrd63 trapper J Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,213 Ky	Originally Posted by vermontster Check and see if the polarity is reversed on that outlet. This also.

Re: GFI outlet and tumbler issues. [Re: WisTrapper] #6389258 12/03/18 06:08 PM 12/03/18 06:08 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 313 New London, Wisconsin W WisTrapper OP trapper
WisTrapper OP trapper W Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 313 New London, Wisconsin	It was the same gfi on the same circuit

Re: GFI outlet and tumbler issues. [Re: WisTrapper] #6389266 12/03/18 06:40 PM 12/03/18 06:40 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,476 Northern Ohio ... S Sullivan K "Keith"
Sullivan K "Keith" S Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,476 Northern Ohio ...	Originally Posted by WisTrapper I have 3 phase motor with a variable frequency drive Is your drive converting single phase to three phase? If so, you may not be getting three phase out of your drive. We used to use converters at work to be able to get the speed control out of the three phase motor. It's been a long time since I hooked one up, and If I remember correctly, you have to input 220 volts single phase in to get your 3 phase. At least that is what ours required. You said you "plugged it in". Are you sure you plugged it in to the correct voltage? My name ain't Keith

Re: GFI outlet and tumbler issues. [Re: WisTrapper] #6389276 12/03/18 06:48 PM 12/03/18 06:48 PM
Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,213 Ky J jbyrd63 trapper
jbyrd63 trapper J Joined: Feb 2014 Posts: 13,213 Ky	try it in the old plug that worked. If still kicking my bet is windings going bad. Lots of thing to trouble shoot tho

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