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Urine Type Matter? #6368501
11/08/18 04:27 PM
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Just wondering if using fox or coyote urine makes any difference at a set. Target animal is coyote but will gladly take a fox, mostly greys in our area. Any thoughts from anyone?


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Re: Urine Type Matter? [Re: oppossum1] #6368614
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I always use coyote urine, and I’ve caught more than a few Fox with it.


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Re: Urine Type Matter? [Re: oppossum1] #6368655
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Use GOOD pee. I have tried pee alot and never had any luck with it. But Im not using quality pee either, just a few quarts here and there when im making online orders. One day im gonna buy some GOOD pee and try it again. Probably from someone that collects it themselves or from a seller that can guarantee it is quality. The run of the mill cheap stuff aint worth your time.


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Re: Urine Type Matter? [Re: oppossum1] #6368760
11/08/18 09:04 PM
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I like red fox urine but coyote works just as well, good urine will attract all sorts of critters other than the animal it came from.
I think all urine has pretty much the same chemicals. One guy on here told of urinating on a competitor's set and the other guy caught a fox in that set.

Re: Urine Type Matter? [Re: tjm] #6368992
11/09/18 06:44 AM
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I don’t think the species matters much, but once you have used GOOD urine, you will see what all the hype is about. When I put a bottle of urine in my Lure box, I can smell it over the skunk when I open the box. There are a few guys that sell GOOD urine. Andy W has excellent urine, and also a guy named Bob that we are not allowed to mention on here.

Re: Urine Type Matter? [Re: oppossum1] #6369272
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I use the unmentionable Bob's fox pee also, and have used Andy's in the past, did get some good coyote pee from a guy in WY that's working well this year . The aroma of a good pee stands out tremendously, it actually has replaced my lure usage........

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Re: Urine Type Matter? [Re: oppossum1] #6369641
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When trapping canines which urine you use doesn't really matter. They are all dogs and they are all interested in sniffing another dogs mark and leaving their own. I've done some experiments during the summer putting in sets without a trap and placing a trail camera there to see how the critters work the set. I actually had more fox work the set that was lured with coyote urine or coyote gland then I did the set that had fox urine. I sometimes carry both fox and coyote urine just to change it up so all my sets aren't the same, especially if you are putting multiple sets at a location, but I don't think it makes that big of a difference.

Re: Urine Type Matter? [Re: oppossum1] #6369722
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Johnny Thorpe said use whatever you had. he talked about using a five gallon bucket to catch cow urine...

Re: Urine Type Matter? [Re: white marlin] #6369846
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In my opinion, fox urine should be stsndard, with bob cat to mix it up. I power up my urine by adding a bit of matching glands to the urine. I use coyote on post she's ment for them

Re: Urine Type Matter? [Re: SkyeDancer] #6369949
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Originally Posted by SkyeDancer
In my opinion, fox urine should be stsndard, with bob cat to mix it up. I power up my urine by adding a bit of matching glands to the urine. I use coyote on post she's ment for them

It’s not a good idea to use cat urine at a canine set. Fox and coyote will try to roll in cat urine and you’ll end up with sprung traps. Johnny Thorpe was adiment about this in his fox trapping videos.


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Re: Urine Type Matter? [Re: oppossum1] #6370025
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The quality of the urine matters the most! Fox works for both, as does coyote. Never really had much luck with bobcat. If I could only use one attractor it would be good quality urine hands down..


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Re: Urine Type Matter? [Re: oppossum1] #6370427
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I always start the season with fox, than go to coyote about thanksgivings day and as it gets really cold spike it with 20 drops of skunk ess. Per pint.


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Re: Urine Type Matter? [Re: beartooth trapr] #6370788
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Can't say I have had any problems when I have used bobcat urine at a canine set. That said, I generally use fox

Re: Urine Type Matter? [Re: oppossum1] #6370808
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Has anyone tried homemade urine?

When making mock deer scrapes, I use homemade dominant buck urine. I have a convenient hand-held dispenser. That is very successful nearly every time.


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Re: Urine Type Matter? [Re: Willy Firewood] #6370855
11/11/18 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Willy Firewood
Has anyone tried homemade urine?

When making mock deer scrapes, I use homemade dominant buck urine. I have a convenient hand-held dispenser. That is very successful nearly every time.


When making mock scrapes, most of the time, I just pee in them myself. Urine just sparks curiosity no matter what kind of urine it is. I use a Pre-Orbital Gland Lure on a licking branch to finish off the set. Smokey from here in WV makes it and it flat out works.

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I have been doing that for about 20 years. That’s what I was getting at with the convenient hand-held dispenser. I locate the scrapes where I want them to be. I have used smokey’s Pre-orbital and agree completely, it sells the scrape.

Best wishes.


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Re: Urine Type Matter? [Re: Raccoontrapper] #6370950
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Originally Posted by Raccoontrapper
Originally Posted by SkyeDancer
In my opinion, fox urine should be stsndard, with bob cat to mix it up. I power up my urine by adding a bit of matching glands to the urine. I use coyote on post she's ment for them

It’s not a good idea to use cat urine at a canine set. Fox and coyote will try to roll in cat urine and you’ll end up with sprung traps. Johnny Thorpe was adiment about this in his fox trapping videos.


I switch from canine urine to cat urine in late December because I feel it has a stronger odor to help in the cold. I have caught hundreds of canines on it with no signs of rolling at the sets. I also put the urine on the set backing only and do not mist the set with it.

Re: Urine Type Matter? [Re: Raccoontrapper] #6370959
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"It’s not a good idea to use cat urine at a canine set",

A lot of very good canine trappers would say differently! Most of the bobcat urine sold is used to target canines.

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