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Brake Rotors for drowning chains #6360594
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I am able to get some brake rotors from a friend who owns a car repair business. How many would you put on a chain drowning system for coons?

Thanks.

Brian


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Re: Brake Rotors for drowning chains [Re: Green Bay] #6360599
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I'm not sure what a rotor weighs- but 10 lbs of window weights and a drowning stick works for me.

Re: Brake Rotors for drowning chains [Re: Green Bay] #6360605
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Originally Posted By: Green Bay
I am able to get some brake rotors from a friend who owns a car repair business. How many would you put on a chain drowning system for coons?

Thanks.

Brian


Are we talking standard vehicle or Yugo?

I use rotors off of Chevy suburbans for beaver and have yet to have one pull it to shore.


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Re: Brake Rotors for drowning chains [Re: Green Bay] #6360631
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I would think they would work if you can get them to deep water fast. The big boar coons are pretty strong animals which might be able to pull them into shallow water.

Re: Brake Rotors for drowning chains [Re: Green Bay] #6360635
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Ironic, going to sell a load today.

Like Hobb said, big difference between 3/4 ton and little car.
A steel stake through them makes em harder to drag.





Re: Brake Rotors for drowning chains [Re: Green Bay] #6360697
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I use them, I like them. As long as I don't have to carry them far!!

Re: Brake Rotors for drowning chains [Re: Green Bay] #6360699
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I use a 3/4 ton Chevy truck rotor for beaver trapping ( just 1) ...works great.


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Re: Brake Rotors for drowning chains [Re: Green Bay] #6360706
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I've been using them for years without issue. One thing I started doing about 10/15 years ago was stashing them on river routes to prevent carrying them with me all the time. Works great as long as you remember where you hid them.


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Re: Brake Rotors for drowning chains [Re: Green Bay] #6360708
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Also, not sure how you are thinking of connecting them but I recommend putting a swivel in.


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Re: Brake Rotors for drowning chains [Re: jaggersr] #6360716
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Originally Posted By: jaggersr
I've been using them for years without issue. One thing I started doing about 10/15 years ago was stashing them on river routes to prevent carrying them with me all the time. Works great as long as you remember where you hid them.


They do work very well for 'coon in deep water. I too used 'em for many years but utilized 3/32" GAC for drowning. The problem, as jaggersr states, is remembering where you hid 'em.

I would have stashes of 10-12 on the river line. As I set the river up going downstream, the pile in the boat would grow smaller. After several years I knew about where I'd need another dozen weights, and the stash would be in the vicinity. On the last day of the season, I'd keep the last dozen or so weights in the boat, run 'em back up to the beginning of the line, and stash 'em somewhere I could fine 'em next year.

Occasionally I would lose a stash. A tree would topple over, a root mass would disappear in the spring flood, or memory would fade from one year to the next. Maps certainly help. There were a few places I stashed 'em in the crotches of trees. But you've got to make sure you use them annually if that's where you stash 'em. Trees tend to grow in diameter.

When I moved down here in 2010, I gave a map of these stashed weights to a former student who traps the area. He's since taken up the line and repeats the same process, hauling the last group of weights back to the beginning of the line on the last pickup day.

A combination of these weights with the GAC and 3/8" rerod drowning rods worked very well for me.

Re: Brake Rotors for drowning chains [Re: Green Bay] #6360734
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I have several brake rotors I use. Sometimes I use 2 wired together if things look iffy...but like all other drowning weights, the consistency of the bottom of your waterway will make a big difference.

I rarely have issues with mud or gravel bottom streams. But I have one section of my line that the bottom of the creek is a sheet of solid rock... Nothing, no matter how heavy, will hold on that slick rock. It's a good spot, even had otter sign there last year. But I've just about given up on that spot. It's near a road, and although a drowned critter would not be noticed, a live one struggling on the bank could be easily seen.

Mike


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Re: Brake Rotors for drowning chains [Re: Mike in A-town] #6360909
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Mike, can you span the creek with a single drowner cable that has a stop in the middle? Couple of sash weights s-hooked onto your trap chain would easily slide out with the critter, then he'd get halfway across and struggle with the weights and eventually succumb.

Re: Brake Rotors for drowning chains [Re: Green Bay] #6360914
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Im using my old rotors off my f150. 1 is plenty. AFter they sit on the bottom for a while they get hard to pull up.


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Re: Brake Rotors for drowning chains [Re: Muskrat] #6360917
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Originally Posted By: Muskrat
Mike, can you span the creek with a single drowner cable that has a stop in the middle? Couple of sash weights s-hooked onto your trap chain would easily slide out with the critter, then he'd get halfway across and struggle with the weights and eventually succumb.


I actually do that on smaller streams. And if I wanted to buy enough cable I could do it on this one creek. You can wade across it without going over your waders, but it's 100 feet or more bank to bank... Not really practical.

There are decent cracks in the bedrock. If I could find some kind of anchor to drive down and wedge in the cracks I think it would work... Something similar to what rock/mountain climbers use to anchor with when they climb. But I don't know if anything exists for such an application outside of that sport.

Mike

Edit: I believe pitons are the anchor I was thinking of... Probably expensive, but I don't need a bunch and a limit on otters might make the cost worth it.

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Re: Brake Rotors for drowning chains [Re: Green Bay] #6360962
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Approx. how much do those truck rotors weigh?


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Re: Brake Rotors for drowning chains [Re: Green Bay] #6361013
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On a sloping bank with solid bottom you better have more than one wheel rotor. More like 20 pound of what ever at least. On steep banks I can see one working......jk


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Re: Brake Rotors for drowning chains [Re: Green Bay] #6371839
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Since posting on this thread I have now had 2 sitting on the bank waiting for me. lol


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Re: Brake Rotors for drowning chains [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6371845
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How deep was the drowning weight? What was the slope of the bank like, steep or gradual slope?

Re: Brake Rotors for drowning chains [Re: Green Bay] #6371851
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Steep and muddy. They didn't get the weight out but managed to get it close enough to get to the bank. Chain length may have contributed.


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Re: Brake Rotors for drowning chains [Re: Buck (Zandra)] #6371902
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Originally Posted by Buck (Zandra)
Approx. how much do those truck rotors weigh?



the ones for my E350 van shipping weight is 48 pounds for a pair so 24 pounds each not those little ones on cars


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