Investments
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10/21/18 08:33 PM
10/21/18 08:33 PM
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jeremy brua
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I have a bunch of bonds that just matured and I'm looking for something to put them back into. I would like something that I could barrow against or withdraw from if that is possible. I'm not real familiar with all my options and I trust you guys more than the bankers. lol
don't worry over the smart ones. catch the dumb ones, they pay the same.
i can do it because i dont know that i cant.
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Re: Investments
[Re: jeremy brua]
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10/21/18 10:28 PM
10/21/18 10:28 PM
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I have a bunch of bonds that just matured and I'm looking for something to put them back into. I would like something that I could barrow against or withdraw from if that is possible. I'm not real familiar with all my options and I trust you guys more than the bankers. lol There are options for you but if you go to a financial institution and use an advisor they will charge you for handling your money. Be careful, I would advise you to have one of them work your money. The fees are high and costs to have them move sell and buy. As far talking to them that is one thing but letting them handle it is another. Not sure how old you are and what risk level you have but there are some great places to put that money to work for you. Good luck.
Give me a fish, I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish, I will eat for a lifetime
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Re: Investments
[Re: jeremy brua]
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10/22/18 03:21 PM
10/22/18 03:21 PM
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jeremy brua
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Thank you everyone for taking the time to respond. I am only 36 but I'm definitely looking tword retirement and I will talk to my guy about a Roth. I wish someone would have explained it to us when we I was in school.
don't worry over the smart ones. catch the dumb ones, they pay the same.
i can do it because i dont know that i cant.
Nì òigear leisg bodach brisg
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Re: Investments
[Re: jeremy brua]
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10/22/18 11:05 PM
10/22/18 11:05 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 4,827 Alaska, USA
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You can't borrow against a Roth IRA, or any retirement account for that matter.
As for bond's losing value in a rising rate environment, that is only true if you need to sell it prior to maturity. If held to maturity, you get your original principal back.
-TJ
Some people are like slinkies - not really good for anything, but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs.
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Re: Investments
[Re: corky]
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10/23/18 09:48 AM
10/23/18 09:48 AM
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white17
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Bonds in a climate of rapidly rising interest rates will lose value. That is indisputable. If you need to preserve capital keep the bond money in a money market and get a positive return until rates stabilize. At your age you should be heavily weighted in stocks to keep up with inflation over the long haul. \ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^This^^^^^^^^^^^^^ There are some screaming buys right this minute in the market this morning. If I was still 36 I wouldn't even hesitate
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Re: Investments
[Re: jeremy brua]
#6354740
10/23/18 04:34 PM
10/23/18 04:34 PM
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Terrific advice here, especially for someone your age. I got stuck with the regular IRA and have to pay tax on the money as I use it. For me to get say $35k, I have to take $50k out. Re read all this several times. You must make the final decision as what to do with your money, I am glad to see you are at least thinking of the future at your age. Congradulations.......jk
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Re: Investments
[Re: jk]
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10/23/18 05:14 PM
10/23/18 05:14 PM
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Terrific advice here, especially for someone your age. I got stuck with the regular IRA and have to pay tax on the money as I use it. For me to get say $35k, I have to take $50k out. Re read all this several times. You must make the final decision as what to do with your money, I am glad to see you are at least thinking of the future at your age. Congradulations.......jk It really depends on the tax bracket you are in when putting money in, and then when you take it out. If you are in a higher tax bracket now, it is better to go tax differed up front and then take it out at a lower tax bracket later. Especially as most folks tend to need less income in retirement then they did when earning it all when they had mortgages, car loans, kids, bigger houses, etc. If you are younger, then you will probably be in a low tax bracket, so it is better to pay the tax now on the income and put it into a Roth, and enjoy no taxes later on it. And also plenty of this depends on what state you are in now earning the money, and what state you plan to be in when you start taking it out. Some (like CA), like a huge slice up front. Others, not so much. -TJ
Some people are like slinkies - not really good for anything, but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs.
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Re: Investments
[Re: jeremy brua]
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10/23/18 06:35 PM
10/23/18 06:35 PM
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Investing in the hiring of a reputable financial adviser would probably be the best option. Though I’m not one, here are a few investment options that I’m somewhat familiar with:
SnP index fund or Mutual funds with good track records invested in a diversified portfolio of stocks should give you an average annual rate of return of 10-12% over a long period of time. Shares can be bought or sold at any time, but there is risk involved and it shouldn’t be done for short term investing if you can’t afford to lose any of it. A fee is charged to pay investment managers, mine is around 1.5% per year.
Rental properties obviously should only be bought if you are willing to deal with the hassle of maintaining the property and dealing with tenants. If bought for a good price and managed well, they should outperform mutual funds if you figure the rental income, value appreciation, and tax savings.
Forest land is one of my favorites because you can hunt, trap, camp, etc. on your investment all while getting a decent rate of return. I’ve seen 8% as a ball park rate of return, but I’m not sure how accurate that is. You should at least have your timber growth+whatever inflation rate is to compare to other options. If you need some of that money in the future, selling off some of your timber is an option.
Another option is if you know of a small business that uses a line of credit to fund inventory etc. and you have a good relationship with the owner and trust him 100% to pay you back he may be willing to borrow from you and pay you the interest he would otherwise pay the bank.
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