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Re: What fur will pay the most? [Re: trapperjb] #6343140
10/08/18 09:52 AM
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There is no European market to speak of. European women are brainwashed by animal rights. Even most farmers in Europe live in town. They travel out to the farm to work rather than live on them. Scandinavians have fur farms everywhere. They are not interested in our wild fur to much. The English are subjects. Free speech free press and self defense are crimes. Law enforcement can enter and search private homes at will. How much fur do you think they will buy?


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Re: What fur will pay the most? [Re: trapperjb] #6343150
10/08/18 10:00 AM
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unfortunately, canada just signed away its sovereignty with "clause 32" of the new us/mexico/canada trade agreement.

there is no back door.

what a loser we have running canada.

Re: What fur will pay the most? [Re: Boco] #6343160
10/08/18 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted By: Boco
What plan to dominate the European market?No such thing.
If your talking about keeping the European market open to Canadian fur,that is a win,and you still benefit from it by using the Canadian auction as a back door.


Fixed that for you.

Unless China cuts the existing tariff against all fur imports, how does Canadian fur benefit price wise if they pay less for ours?


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Re: What fur will pay the most? [Re: danny clifton] #6343169
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Originally Posted By: danny clifton
There is no European market to speak of. European women are brainwashed by animal rights. Even most farmers in Europe live in town. They travel out to the farm to work rather than live on them. Scandinavians have fur farms everywhere. They are not interested in our wild fur to much. The English are subjects. Free speech free press and self defense are crimes. Law enforcement can enter and search private homes at will. How much fur do you think they will buy?


Everywhere is right. They are moving them to Poland and I hear Wisconsin. NAFA, the ranch mink company, has receiving depots in both places. When 95% or better of your business is ranch mink, I don't even know why they bother with wild fur. crazy

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Re: What fur will pay the most? [Re: trapperjb] #6343195
10/08/18 11:25 AM
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Fashions change, China's economy is in the tank, ranch mink might be done for a while.

Re: What fur will pay the most? [Re: trapperjb] #6343211
10/08/18 11:47 AM
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Trapperjb … I am in the center of the state of Ohio and this will be my 71st year trapping … My suggestion for your location would be to contact any taxidermist in a 50 mile radius of you … see what they might be interested in buying and try and fill their requests. That way you don't have to skin and stretch, because most of them want to that themselves. If you go for coon you want the 18 to 20 pounders (don't go much larger than that in Ohio). You want to get the silver-backs … no one wants the wooly yellow bellies. I usually wait until Thanksgiving to start on the coon, that way very few blue ones. Last year No.1 buck mink were going for 8 to 10 bucks … I sold one to a Taxidermist for $35 and all I had to do was drive about 20 miles. Your area should produce some nice rats … XXX rats could go to $4.50 or maybe even $5. Your December fox might do good if the reds are long furred cherry red throughout with white tail tip. They don't seem interested if they have grayish hind quarters. The price on Grays seem to be jumping around, but what ever, they need to be prime furred. Any drastic off colored catch is a prime market for the taxidermy trade. Make you contacts before the season starts.


I am getting along in years and don't get around very well some days … so I stick with the easy ones, rats, mink and an occasional coon. Good luck with your season. Work smart not hard.


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Re: What fur will pay the most? [Re: Actor] #6343309
10/08/18 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: Actor
Trapperjb … I am in the center of the state of Ohio and this will be my 71st year trapping … My suggestion for your location would be to contact any taxidermist in a 50 mile radius of you … see what they might be interested in buying and try and fill their requests. That way you don't have to skin and stretch, because most of them want to that themselves. If you go for coon you want the 18 to 20 pounders (don't go much larger than that in Ohio). You want to get the silver-backs … no one wants the wooly yellow bellies. I usually wait until Thanksgiving to start on the coon, that way very few blue ones. Last year No.1 buck mink were going for 8 to 10 bucks … I sold one to a Taxidermist for $35 and all I had to do was drive about 20 miles. Your area should produce some nice rats … XXX rats could go to $4.50 or maybe even $5. Your December fox might do good if the reds are long furred cherry red throughout with white tail tip. They don't seem interested if they have grayish hind quarters. The price on Grays seem to be jumping around, but what ever, they need to be prime furred. Any drastic off colored catch is a prime market for the taxidermy trade. Make you contacts before the season starts.


I am getting along in years and don't get around very well some days … so I stick with the easy ones, rats, mink and an occasional coon. Good luck with your season. Work smart not hard.


Garry-


Thank you sir for sharing your wisdom!

Re: What fur will pay the most? [Re: trapperjb] #6343392
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I don’t remember all the details but when a whole bunch of fur was caught being smuggled into China 3 or 4 years ago ( to avoid tariffs), isn’t that when the bottom dropped out?


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Re: What fur will pay the most? [Re: trapperjb] #6343400
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And the Chinese that smuggled either committed suicide or were executed


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Re: What fur will pay the most? [Re: Dirt] #6343407
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Originally Posted By: Dirt
Originally Posted By: danny clifton
There is no European market to speak of. European women are brainwashed by animal rights. Even most farmers in Europe live in town. They travel out to the farm to work rather than live on them. Scandinavians have fur farms everywhere. They are not interested in our wild fur to much. The English are subjects. Free speech free press and self defense are crimes. Law enforcement can enter and search private homes at will. How much fur do you think they will buy?


Everywhere is right. They are moving them to Poland and I hear Wisconsin. NAFA, the ranch mink company, has receiving depots in both places. When 95% or better of your business is ranch mink, I don't even know why they bother with wild fur. crazy


Nafa may need all the wild fur it can get if there is a lot of upcoming peltouts. Nafa could easily lose half the ranch mink in one year.


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Re: What fur will pay the most? [Re: trapperjb] #6343408
10/08/18 05:26 PM
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Ever since the crash NAFA has gone from selling about 3 million ranch mink to 10 million. Half of ten is still 5 million. I wonder if they even move a million wild pelts these days and most of those would sell at less than $10 a pelt.


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Re: What fur will pay the most? [Re: trapperjb] #6343424
10/08/18 06:18 PM
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I can tell you that paying $100 per unit (area) to trap rats on a Federal refuge is a losing proposition.
I can cut firewood there for free though. Firewood may be my target species this year.

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Re: What fur will pay the most? [Re: trapperjb] #6343607
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Gary your not the only guy ive heard say that it sounds like a joke to me

Re: What fur will pay the most? [Re: Dirt] #6343620
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Originally Posted By: Dirt
Ever since the crash NAFA has gone from selling about 3 million ranch mink to 10 million. Half of ten is still 5 million. I wonder if they even move a million wild pelts these days and most of those would sell at less than $10 a pelt.


Still losing half your inventory is a big hit. Nafa has invested to be a big company when dealing with ranch mink. They are lucky that ALC went broke.


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Re: What fur will pay the most? [Re: trapperjb] #6343700
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It doesn't help that the mink farms in the Scandinavian countries are propped up on government subsidies due to the socialist economic system they have over there. Ironic that they ban trapping and don't wear fur but still fund mink farms with taxpayer money. Wish they would go out of business so us wild fur guys could have decent prices. (maybe)

Re: What fur will pay the most? [Re: trapperjb] #6343738
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It would be wonderful if we ended socialism in our country


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Re: What fur will pay the most? [Re: trapperjb] #6344060
10/09/18 04:05 PM
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For me it's simple, beaver pay the best and it's not even close. Our watershed district pays $100 for each tail brought to them. They could care less what happens to the rest of the beaver. Unfortunately, we don't have a lot of them around but it's Christmas when you find them.

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