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Will 2,4-D kill wildflowers?? #6295365
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Looking for a bulk brushkiller to take out alder root suckering in area cleared and restored to prairie wildflowers. Have been grubbing them with a small mattocks as they get a couple feet tall but they are like hydra's - grub out one and several more grow. @,4-D shouldn't hurt grasses but not positive on wildflowers. Want to know if overspray is danger or if I need to surgical target alder w/ brush- on application or something? Wish I could prescribe burn but too unsafe/complicated.


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Re: Will 2,4-D kill wildflowers?? [Re: Drakej] #6295368
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Yes it will kill the wildflowers. Most of your wildflowers are essentially broadleaf weeds and 2-4D targets all broadleafs.

Re: Will 2,4-D kill wildflowers?? [Re: Drakej] #6295370
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yes! but, you can apply either 2,4D or glyphosate with a paint brush, if that would help.

Re: Will 2,4-D kill wildflowers?? [Re: Drakej] #6295524
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applied to each sucker. No spray.

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Re: Will 2,4-D kill wildflowers?? [Re: Drakej] #6295574
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Great stuff......jk


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Re: Will 2,4-D kill wildflowers?? [Re: AKAjust] #6295586
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Originally Posted By: AKAjust
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applied to each sucker. No spray.



X2. Tordon RTU (ready to use) is the best you can use for brush, and usually is about $15-$17 a quart, just cut sucker off at ground level and apply a small amount to the stump. DON'T use 2-4D as like said it will kill ALL broadleaf plants it contacts.

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Re: Will 2,4-D kill wildflowers?? [Re: Drakej] #6295720
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Re: Will 2,4-D kill wildflowers?? [Re: Drakej] #6295726
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tordon can be injected as well as stump treated but again - do not spray it or it too will kill non targets

Re: Will 2,4-D kill wildflowers?? [Re: Sanford Otte] #6295751
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Originally Posted By: Sanford Otte



XDON'T use 2-4D as like said it will kill ALL broadleaf plants it contacts.


So will Tordon.
2,4D can be used for stump treating just like Tordon can. If you already have the 2,4D there's no reason to buy something else. If you have to buy one or the other, buy the Tordon.

Re: Will 2,4-D kill wildflowers?? [Re: Drakej] #6296075
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Nothing is ever easy. Looks like a targeted application is needed(but more time consuming). About half my area is mow-able, the rest too rocky. Should have Rounduped before I started reseeding.


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Re: Will 2,4-D kill wildflowers?? [Re: Drakej] #6296134
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Hmm, I used to work on a farm when I was a kid about 45 yrs ago and used 2-4D Ester to kill Canadian thistle and I just used a backpack sprayer and it worked like a charm. No mowing needed. Actually worked better if there was some leafs to leave it on. Perhaps things and time have change but it tis what worked for us in Oral, South Dakota.

Re: Will 2,4-D kill wildflowers?? [Re: Drakej] #6311285
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I do have a new area of goldenrod that I want to kill to replant would Torodon be more economical to buy bulk than Roundup? Can you get it at like Tractor Supply store?


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Re: Will 2,4-D kill wildflowers?? [Re: Drakej] #6311300
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Round up is generally about half the price of Tordon. There is a lot of difference in the two herbicides. Roundup (glyphosate) is non selective and will kill just about everything you spray it on. Tordon (picloram) is a selective herbicide and won’t damage certain grasses. Also glyphosate is not soil active, that is it kills what you spray it on and then degrades quickly when in contact with soil particles. Tordon is soil active and will give you some residual control but will also move around in the soil especially after rainfalls.

Re: Will 2,4-D kill wildflowers?? [Re: Drakej] #6311431
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Wouldn't make sense to buy Tordon for goldenrod. If you want to kill everything, buy glyphosate/roundup. If you just want to kill the broadleaf weeds, buy 2,4D. Whatever you buy, spraying on full grown goldenrod this time of year isn't going to work out well. It'll need mowed first and allowed to start growing again.

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Re: Will 2,4-D kill wildflowers?? [Re: Drakej] #6311613
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What MM said. Most people want to spray the weeds when they get about waist high and are pretty rank. They are very difficult to kill at least with labeled rates when they get that tall. Spray early in the spring with 2,4D and add a little tordon in for residual control and you should take care of most broadleaf weeds.

Re: Will 2,4-D kill wildflowers?? [Re: Drakej] #6311619
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Garlon works great for brushy woody stuff too

Re: Will 2,4-D kill wildflowers?? [Re: clulay21] #6311689
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You bet 2-4-D will kill widldf lowers but in addition, spraying chemicals on late growth stage large plants is the least effective and efficient way to kill the plants.

It may be best to just cut them off now so they won't develop mature seed and then next summer, (they are a late emerging and growing plant) spray the young fast growing growth which will kill broad leafs and not the grasses.

Bryce

Re: Will 2,4-D kill wildflowers?? [Re: Drakej] #6311706
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Have you thought of burning?

Buy a "Buckthorn Blaster" to apply the herbicide to the cut stump. It will make your effort much easier and more effective, especially if you add a dye to the herbicide.

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Re: Will 2,4-D kill wildflowers?? [Re: Drakej] #6311708
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You can by Drexel Imitator for 35 dollars for 2.5 gallons at rural king or probably tractor supply as well. Heck of a lot cheaper than Roundup and its the same stuff, glysophate.

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