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Re: Big whitetail bucks [Re: AJE] #6308248
08/22/18 08:00 PM
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Things can also change drastically within a state. The area from mn I'm from, you will have at least 1 140-160" buck to hunt on an annual basis. I'm from the transition where the woods/swamps meet the agriculture ground. Maybe once every 5 years you run into a true giant that is a b&c contender. Every year there are b&c bucks shot within 5-10 miles of my house. Two years ago a 171" and a 178" deer were shot on my land (before I owned it) during the 9 day rifle season. Where my grandpa lives 50 miles north, a 130" buck would be considered very large. I believe it when it counts Minnesota, it's just that our big buck producing areas are relatively concentrated.

Re: Big whitetail bucks [Re: AJE] #6308316
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My family (Wisconsin) does not measure our deer for the books. We do not share what we even shoot with many. Green eyed monster makes for serious issues. I can tell we if we did we could add 10 to that count easily. I also know neighbors that do the same and could add many more. That is in just our little pieces of property in WI. encompassing 4-5 thousand acres.

Re: Big whitetail bucks [Re: Eric B] #6308342
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Originally Posted By: Eric B
Things can also change drastically within a state. The area from mn I'm from, you will have at least 1 140-160" buck to hunt on an annual basis. I'm from the transition where the woods/swamps meet the agriculture ground. Maybe once every 5 years you run into a true giant that is a b&c contender. Every year there are b&c bucks shot within 5-10 miles of my house. Two years ago a 171" and a 178" deer were shot on my land (before I owned it) during the 9 day rifle season. Where my grandpa lives 50 miles north, a 130" buck would be considered very large. I believe it when it counts Minnesota, it's just that our big buck producing areas are relatively concentrated.


That’s why I’m coming down to Minnesota this year to hunt some big bucks!


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Re: Big whitetail bucks [Re: Jurassic Park] #6308358
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Originally Posted By: Jurassic Park
Originally Posted By: Eric B
Things can also change drastically within a state. The area from mn I'm from, you will have at least 1 140-160" buck to hunt on an annual basis. I'm from the transition where the woods/swamps meet the agriculture ground. Maybe once every 5 years you run into a true giant that is a b&c contender. Every year there are b&c bucks shot within 5-10 miles of my house. Two years ago a 171" and a 178" deer were shot on my land (before I owned it) during the 9 day rifle season. Where my grandpa lives 50 miles north, a 130" buck would be considered very large. I believe it when it counts Minnesota, it's just that our big buck producing areas are relatively concentrated.


That’s why I’m coming down to Minnesota this year to hunt some big bucks!


Ask them where would be a place to hunt with big buck producing areas that are relatively concentrated. LOL


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Re: Big whitetail bucks [Re: AJE] #6308360
08/22/18 10:31 PM
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I'd say are not 50% of B&C bucks recorded. I know the farm we have in Illinois , they have been 3 booners killed in the past 8 years and not one was recorded. I was hunting a 175" buck here in Tenn 2 years ago and told a buddy, so we hunted him hard and my friend was lucky enough to kill him, he let the wardens score him and took him to all the shows, and within 6 months one local warden bought the neighboring property and now they are treestands all around my old honey hole. Time to move on, did learn a valuable lesson, next time I find a big one I'm not telling a soul. Lol cry

Re: Big whitetail bucks [Re: snowy] #6308387
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Originally Posted By: snowy
Originally Posted By: Jurassic Park

That’s why I’m coming down to Minnesota this year to hunt some big bucks!


Ask them where would be a place to hunt with big buck producing areas that are relatively concentrated. LOL


Lmao!


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Re: Big whitetail bucks [Re: snowy] #6308395
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Originally Posted By: snowy

Ask them where would be a place to hunt with big buck producing areas that are relatively concentrated. LOL


Montana!


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Re: Big whitetail bucks [Re: AJE] #6308398
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Just to keep things simple, I hunt in an area where there are very few deer, with a buck to doe ratio of 1 to 500 - and the only buck in the region is a very tired but very happy 6 pointer. I saw him once, it was in early December. I did not shoot him out of respect and admiration.


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Re: Big whitetail bucks [Re: AJE] #6308452
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I have never scored a buck. Are the standard 10 and 12 point typical bucks Boone and Crockett eligible?

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Re: Big whitetail bucks [Re: KeithC] #6308509
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Originally Posted By: KeithC
I have never scored a buck. Are the standard 10 and 12 point typical bucks Boone and Crockett eligible?

Keith


Minimum score for B and C whitetail is 160.


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Re: Big whitetail bucks [Re: Steven 49er] #6308513
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Originally Posted By: Steven 49er
Originally Posted By: snowy

Ask them where would be a place to hunt with big buck producing areas that are relatively concentrated. LOL


Montana!
A post a while back I did tell them where to go in MT.


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Re: Big whitetail bucks [Re: snowy] #6308514
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Originally Posted By: snowy
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[quote=snowy]
Ask them where would be a place to hunt with big buck producing areas that are relatively concentrated. LOL


Montana!
A post a while back I did tell them where to go in MT. The best area in the state for deer.


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Re: Big whitetail bucks [Re: snowy] #6308531
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Originally Posted By: snowy
Originally Posted By: Jurassic Park


That’s why I’m coming down to Minnesota this year to hunt some big bucks!


Ask them where would be a place to hunt with big buck producing areas that are relatively concentrated. LOL


I told him. Where the big cover meets ag. Was I supposed to draw a map to where he would kill the next Hansen buck? No one told me where to go when I went to wyoming for antelope. Hours of research went into finding somewhere we could get leftover buck tags, have ample access to public land, and have high success rates. That's all part of planning an out of state hunt. There's also much less than 1% of the land in my zone that is public, and every landowner hunts. Mn has little public land in the areas with big deer, and what is there is hit so hard the bucks don't usually make their second birthday.

Jurassic, PM me and I can give you a general idea of where you can look, but like I said in your last thread, with otc licenses and a large population of non landowner hunters, public land in mn can be a nightmare. You will need to get way off the beaten path to have success.

Re: Big whitetail bucks [Re: AJE] #6308555
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It was nice of you to help this guy.
That is why so many MN come to other states to hunt. The neighboring states get literally hammered with MN outdoorsman. This is not to belittling the MN people but true facts and most would just wish they stayed in their own state. Kind of like what was said in this thread. Hunters don't tell anyone where to hunt because of loosing their spot. With all the MN coming in has taken away and ruined the hunting for many locals.

It is very possible that know one helped in find place to hunt in WY to hunt is because of the poor reputation on the MN hunters. I'm just saying.


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Re: Big whitetail bucks [Re: AJE] #6308562
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Re: Big whitetail bucks [Re: AJE] #6308563
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You can’t eat the horns!!

But you can stir a big pot of chilli with them!!!

Re: Big whitetail bucks [Re: snowy] #6308641
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Originally Posted By: snowy
It was nice of you to help this guy.
That is why so many MN come to other states to hunt. The neighboring states get literally hammered with MN outdoorsman. This is not to belittling the MN people but true facts and most would just wish they stayed in their own state. Kind of like what was said in this thread. Hunters don't tell anyone where to hunt because of loosing their spot. With all the MN coming in has taken away and ruined the hunting for many locals.

It is very possible that know one helped in find place to hunt in WY to hunt is because of the poor reputation on the MN hunters. I'm just saying.

No one helped because I didn't ask. Part of the fun in the hunt was planning and figuring out.
I'm sorry you had issues with someone from mn at some point. I've met nd hunters who were slobs, ia fisherman who were slobs, mn hunters who were slobs. There's bad ones from every state. But the worst I've met have always been locals every where I've been. They feel entitled, disrespect the land, and don't ask permission. The worst poachers are always locals because they know when people won't be around.
And fear of losing your spot isn't an mn thing. Its everywhere. You may have given the best deer area in Montana, but if you're a hunter, I bet you didn't give up your 50 acre honey hole in that area.
In the previous thread I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt and thought you had just had a couple bad interactions. I tried to be respectful to you, but you still just lump us all as one. I now see you truly dislike minnesotans, no matter what any of us do or say.

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Hey Eric B it’s all good. I plan to hunt some public land up against the Canada/US border. Way up there in MN lol. Just trying to hunt somewhere that I can get to in less than 2 hours so I can come home early enough still to get a good nights sleep and can go back again the next day if I want.


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Re: Big whitetail bucks [Re: AJE] #6308760
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Eric B you are pretty much spot on with everything you said. I have bowhunted many states and I do know that a lot of people from MN travel to hunt because our deer hunting in this state is so screwed up. There are pockets of good hunting for mature bucks, such as the southeast corner of the state and the forest fringe areas, but there is precious little public land in these areas. There is all the public land a person can hunt in a lifetime in the forest zone but that's where 80% of the bucks are killed when they are yearling and the buck-doe ratio is way out of whack. So MN hunters have been going elsewhere in droves.

I love hunting eastern Montana, what a blast, there are tons of deer, and a great chance at a 140-150 but B&C bucks are rare there. Maybe next year, but this year I am pretty busy with Manitoba, North Dakota and Kansas. And maybe Nebraska. And maybe...

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Any hunters take in consideration of hunter density? Just curious....

That's what landed me in Nebraska years ago...Kansas is in my future...

But I'm speaking of p&y bucks...wondering if b&c Bucks falls in...

When I did my research on where to hunt(besides Illinois at this time, which my good friend killed a 215 on state land on our yearly bow hunting trip) I took into consideration of the tags sold for archery in the state plus the entries of p&y bucks....

So, the first year I went to Nebraska if I remember the state sold 17-19,000 archery tags and had a good number of entries in the p&y.

My thoughts were I had a better chance of killing a p&y Buck do to less pressure...

Let's say michigan had 200 entries but also had 350,000 bow hunters that year...
Nebraska had 80 entries but only had 17,000 archery tags sold that year...
By my standards I'm going to Nebraska, my odds would be better in my own mind, I'm not always correct though...


Thought I was a good trapper until I started trapping coyotes......
Thought I was a good bowhunter until I targeted mature bucks....
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