I’m Trying a bunch of different things for treating coyote traps this year, and seeing which one I like best. Anybody have any thoughts on this? Pros, cons? Also, I’ve heard some people wax over it. Is it necessary? Thanks

There's various speed dips on the market, some water based and some gasoline based. A lot of trappers like using dip.

I've seen no reason to wax over speed dip, in my experience. Not sure it's the best choice for coyote traps, though o have caught yotes in dipped traps.

I have used it successfully in the past.

However, all too often, it turns out to be a sticky stinky mess on traps. There have been tons of post complaining about the results,,, NOT worth the risk IMO.

You'll likely hear use special gas, mix at this or that ratio, use only in low humidity, etc... and it'll work fine. I say if there is a right way to make it work correctly every time, they should of figured it out buy now, (20+ years in production) and put it CORRECTLY on the label. It's my belief that there are too many factors that can make it not work right, it's, like I said, not worth the risk.

I use speed dip on all of my water traps and my coon traps and my body grippers and I too have come up with a recipe that works well for me and environmental conditions etc. I have no problem with how it works for me. If you are fairly new to this I would lie, dye and wax my canine traps as that is more fool proof if you understand how to work with the wax. It is also easier to undo errors with dye and wax. If you want to dip a few then see how that works for you. There will be several that will offer their process if you are looking for some info.

Bryce

First of all why are you using it? (in other words why are you doing anything to perfectly good traps?)

Then how do you think the tar (is it tar?) is going to react at ~230F that the wax needs to be? maybe melt and blend with the wax? both are petroleum products?

As ADC mentioned, before the recent site reduction/pruning there were maybe fifty (or a hundred) threads of "how to remove Speed Dip" & "it didn't work for me".

Silly middle of the night thoughts; 1) speed dip is to protect the traps from rust, but the trap must be rusted or the dip won't stick- wth?
2)Speed Dip covers rust up like paint but as we know from looking at my truck rust can grow under paint 3)if the trap has to be pre-rusted and rust can grow under such a coating..where's the gain?
4) why couldn't I save the price of the dip and the gas and the cost of my time and just buy new traps when these rust out in 20 years? 5) ever wonder why wild animals aren't scared of petroleum product smells that perturb ordinary people- I mean gas, paint, dip, diesel on my boots old tires all stink like crude and yet the critters get in the traps?

Oh well the learning curve must be respected and there are guys willing to help you get it off next summer, so have fun with it and best of luck!

been useing it for years and never had a problem with it.

Me neither.Not going to explain the process again.

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Been there, done that....ADC is right!

Tried it once and it made the traps sticky, I don't know if I didn't do it right or what but I'll stick with dying with walnuts and sumac and waxing

I've been using it for years and am very pleased with it. Dip the traps in mid-summer and weeks later it will seem like the traps are gummy and sticky with the stuff. But by the time the cool autumn comes along, all the stickiness will be gone. There won't be any residue on your clothes or hands when you handle the traps. I use it on all my water traps and never have any problems. Yes, it feels a little gummy in the hot summer. But give it some time and a drop in temperatures and it will be just fine.

I don't use it on my land traps, though. I like to be able to boil and re-coat my traps during the season so I have fresh traps to use after they have made a catch. I can boil and wax and the traps are ready to use the next day. I can't do that with speed dip - it takes too long to fully dry to use it to clean and re-coat during the season.

Personally, I would NOT wax over it. First, I don't see any advantage to it. Second, the speed dip coating is going to soften up and come loose in the hot wax. Plus, some of the speed dip is bound to come off in the hot wax and contaminate the wax. That doesn't sound like a good idea to me at all. But, I've never tried it, either.

Yep, just when you think you've got it down pat, boom, ya got a sticky mess. I switched to 50/50 acetone and rustoleum and love it.

Alright guys, for those that have used this.....I dipped my traps about 3 weeks ago and they are still somewhat sticky to the touch. I picked some up today and it left some dip on my hands. They also have a noticeable gasoline smell still. Should I be worried about this? Thanks

ave, you will be fine. seems like once the temps drop a bit it will harden up just fine.

When it comes to any speed dip,some swear by it,,some swear at it.I don't like it.

I would not want my dipped traps to be sticky a few weeks after dipping. Too thick, too cool or too humid. I know cause 25 years ago my first batches came out like that.
I don't know your setup or how many traps etc. but if it were me I would rig up a rack that I could hang the traps on and drape some black plastic or something over the traps so the sun will heat it up really hot and have a couple fans blowing through the rack and make a hot and dry environment and take the moisture out of the dip. Your traps will smell like gas while they are sticky and if you set those traps your gloves and hands will too.

Bryce

Iused it on all my traps in the past but i dipped them in the spring so they could air out all summer and still had coyotes avoid them so i went to dye and wax and they will walk right into my sets. I still use it on all my water traps and get along fine

I am with catch 22. I have switched to rustoleum and acetone as well.