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Re: Stretching Coon [Re: cadyshac] #630269
03/13/08 08:55 PM
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If they dried wavy and wrinkly then they weren't handled right. Not to say that coon done on wire is the wrong way I just found that after doing coon both on wire and wood that I got a neater narrower looking pelt than I got when using wire. FHA reccomends wood strechers for northern Canadian coon and thats what I catch up here and since there selling my pelts I'll take there advice.

Re: Stretching Coon [Re: cadyshac] #630281
03/13/08 09:00 PM
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I was told my numerous people that they averaged $3.50 a piece more on coon when done up on boards. The basswood board buisness is booming. The expensive cats ($950 to $1000) are put up on basswood stretchers. Everybody starts out with wire stretchers and gravitates to wood when they want perfection and top dollar. HP


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Re: Stretching Coon [Re: cadyshac] #630295
03/13/08 09:05 PM
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cadyshac,I am a nafa man for 16 years and before that a Hudson bay shipper. I handle,size,and pregrade over 100,000 raccoon a year for nafa and I can tell you I love wire stretched roccoon. I know Greg does his demos and promotes wood stretching boards(and Greg is a very good friend of mine)but I equate a lot of the demos to bit of "show biz". I will add that nobody does it better! Wires pretty much eliminate the cheat factor on pointed noses. Clothes pins are acceptible as long as the animal was skinned properly. The stretcher is flexible so it is tempting to "skinny" up the coon but this is so easily detected that it goes without saying. I have stated this before on this website and will state again: If you are shipping fur to one of the auction companies or selling to a major player(such as Groenwald) don't try to get creative. Take what you have and you will always get a break on the grade and size. If you want to fluff up tails or bunch up the fur around the base as sometimes shown at demos or in literature,that is fine but you will NOT be downgraded if you don't. A good clean job and proper stretch will reward you with professional fur dealers and graders. Terry

Re: Stretching Coon [Re: 4488] #630501
03/13/08 10:08 PM
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I have to admit that I've sold coon done on boards and wire and have seen no noticeable difference in price, I just like the neater apperence of a coon done on a board.

Re: Stretching Coon [Re: canadian trapper] #630565
03/13/08 10:38 PM
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But If you are about 2" from the next grade you can get It on wood and you won't get It on wire. And that 2" could get you a few more dollars. Size Is the first thing that's taken Into consideration when that hide graded. The first thing Greg does Is measure.


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Re: Stretching Coon [Re: The Beav] #630822
03/14/08 06:47 AM
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wire is all i have ever used and got top price for my furs


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Re: Stretching Coon [Re: The Beav] #630974
03/14/08 09:12 AM
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Beav: Generally I would try and get taht coon down to the next line but it was already on the board pretty tight and the next line would have been a big stretch.
The one advantage I like about baords versus wires is that when you do have a coon that ends up close to a size break if you can thicken up that fur in the inspection window area and the coon is handled well the grader may give you the size up which could be a difference of $3.50 that someone mentined.
Thanks for the tip on the staples. I have tried them before and I agree the fur goes on the boards quicker but I found it a real pain trying to take them out. Maybe the longer staples Beav mentioned might work better.
Never heard of catfish pliers. Definitely not a Southern Ontario tool.
Greg

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