Re: Monarch catapiller care
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First Two pictures are ones in my garden that disappeared to have crystalis, next one is my first monarch to make a crystalis Third picture is swallowtail catapiller, then monarchs eating milkweed, then another swallowtail, and two swallowtail in crystalis or whatever they call them
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Re: Monarch catapiller care
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Two catapiller were killed today by the parasitic bugs I think I was wrong looks like one was just shedding it's skin
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Re: Monarch catapiller care
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Natures way is that not all born live a full life. Everything is sustenance for something else. Every species needs to beat the odds - or its EXTINCTION.
T-2.0, the swallowtail pupae need to be overwintered to mature as they "hatch"(metamorph) in the spring.
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Re: Monarch catapiller care
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Natures way is that not all born live a full life. Everything is sustenance for something else. Every species needs to beat the odds - or its EXTINCTION.
T-2.0, the swallowtail pupae need to be overwintered to mature as they "hatch"(metamorph) in the spring. Oh wow!! I had no idea! So just keep them in climate controlled, or can they also be in cold garage?
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Re: Monarch catapiller care
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Lots of info on the web depending on what you want to winter. Some can be done as eggs, cats or pupae. Google "over wintering swallowtail pupae" as a start.
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Re: Monarch catapiller care
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Thanks Looked at site, thanks again, well darn I wanted to see them soon! Well the monarchs are almost done, I think I had 17+ before 3 died from bug
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Re: Monarch catapiller care
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WOW! Those are good pictures and you have done a great job taking care of them. Keep us posted and I will continue to search for eggs or larva to see if I can raise some butterflies.
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Re: Monarch catapiller care
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I thought the swallowtail tail picture there was good, it's one that already is in cocoon Two of three monarchs are hanging, and one crystalis
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Re: Monarch catapiller care
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I think five of 17 so far we're infected with the wasp grub I thought one of the swallowtail died in cocoon because it turned brown and others were green, I guess some are brown and some green, naturally, good thing I didn't throw it away
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Re: Monarch catapiller care
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Most swallowtail chrysalis's before and into winter around me. Might be a camo tactic for when green disappears for the winter and they change chemically to be able to survive freezing. Nature is nothing if not amazing in its ability to adapt to survive, IMO. The generation of Monarch you are raising should be the SUPER Monarchs that will migrate to Mexico/Central America(Monarch east of the Rockies,west to S. Cal/NW Mexico). But you are south enough where you might get one more generation. Here they will be heading south soon as the wildflowers(milkweeds, liastrises - favorite, peak and go to seed). They will never return. You would never see one you might tag to track migration return like birds.
You can sex them by the size of the black "spot" on lower/underside wing. Female adult Monarch butterflies are slightly darker and have wider black lines on their wings.
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Re: Monarch catapiller care
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Last September we picked 350 pounds of swamp milkweed off of my family duck swamp. That’s pure live seed pounds! We sell it to native seed companies. It all goes into butterfly mixes. Doing my part for the Monarchs!! Way cool! I just spread the seeds from areas with tons of MW to areas that don't have much if any.
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Re: Monarch catapiller care
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Thanks for the info drake, it's kinda cool to help them if I can improve survival rate, make up for the 3-4 I hit this year with my truck!! So if swallowtail comes out in cold weather , what do I do? Where will it go?
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Re: Monarch catapiller care
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My best method of overwintering pupae or cocoons is placing them between glass and screen of a window(any but south) or in screened porch and let Nature run its course. One must be attentive in the spring so they can be released once a butterfly. In the spring if they are black or very light(weight) they probably succumbed to something. You can also move them inside or outside in mid-spring if you can't watch them(but outside they are at Nature's mercy like others.
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Re: Monarch catapiller care
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Thanks I was thinking my unheated garage would be good, I still have one window with an old type screen on the north side of the house, I'll try that, I thought one was missing yesterday, it hung itself under the foil covering the water, I looked all over my kitchen several times, three more hung on outside of the box last night, five crystalis hanging on outside of the box now, I think I have one more of the last four that will die, he's not eating, must have a grub in him
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