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Re: #155 for fisher?
[Re: proratman]
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07/31/18 09:25 PM
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Boco
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No you want to keep the ratio of adult females to juveniles low.There are several methods to avoid adult females like not setting in core habitat,spreading out sets to exclude the smaller female home ranges and stopping trapping early if the juvenile harvest drops off.A large number of juveniles wont make it past late winter due to the natural thinning when the carrying capacity of the land is set at that time,regardless of whether they are trapped or not.Juveniles that cannot establish a home range are the ones that have the toughest time and usually don't make it.
The dispersing juveniles are much more succeptable to trapping and can be fairly easily targeted if you know your ground well and set up in the travel corridors between core habitats.
In my country the travel corridors for marten are the timbered drainages through old burns and the funnels around chains of lakes etc.
These methods have worked very well on my registered traplines here over the last 35 years of management.
Hoe do you manage your resource when there are 10 guys trapping the same ground and you don't know what the other guy is doing?
Last edited by Boco; 07/31/18 09:28 PM.
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Re: #155 for fisher?
[Re: proratman]
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08/01/18 12:42 AM
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Weasels are so abundant here that they are not impacted by trapping.Their home range is so small that unless you are setting traps every couple hundred yards you will exclude the majority.They are also a very prolific animal and can repopulate quickly if trapped out locally.
On the fringes of their range I can see where excluding females might help.I catch all my weasels as incidentals in 120's set for marten.Because of the sexual dimorphism of weasels,females are to a great extent excluded as they don't normally fire the trap unless they are dragging a chunk of bait.
For example this past year I caught over a hundred shorttail weasels and only a dozen or so were females.
So if you wanted to avoid females,use sets that will exclude the smaller females.
I don't doubt that big weasels will kill small weasels,but I have no knowledge of that bringing a female into estrous.I kind of doubt that as I don't believe they are capable of more than one litter per year,and they breed every year,not every second year.
Last edited by Boco; 08/01/18 12:44 AM.
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Re: #155 for fisher?
[Re: proratman]
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08/01/18 08:37 AM
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Fishers are easy to trap. I like 160's in wooden boxes as used for coon. Here in WI we only get one tag at a time through a drawing. So the coon sets will fill that tag/
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Re: #155 for fisher?
[Re: proratman]
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08/01/18 09:46 AM
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Lots of great info here....
Thought I was a good trapper until I started trapping coyotes......
Thought I was a good bowhunter until I targeted mature bucks....
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Re: #155 for fisher?
[Re: Boco]
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08/01/18 08:52 PM
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No you want to keep the ratio of adult females to juveniles low.There are several methods to avoid adult females like not setting in core habitat,spreading out sets to exclude the smaller female home ranges and stopping trapping early if the juvenile harvest drops off.A large number of juveniles wont make it past late winter due to the natural thinning when the carrying capacity of the land is set at that time,regardless of whether they are trapped or not.Juveniles that cannot establish a home range are the ones that have the toughest time and usually don't make it.
The dispersing juveniles are much more succeptable to trapping and can be fairly easily targeted if you know your ground well and set up in the travel corridors between core habitats.
In my country the travel corridors for marten are the timbered drainages through old burns and the funnels around chains of lakes etc.
These methods have worked very well on my registered traplines here over the last 35 years of management.
Hoe do you manage your resource when there are 10 guys trapping the same ground and you don't know what the other guy is doing?
This is good sound furbearer management.
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Re: #155 for fisher?
[Re: proratman]
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08/01/18 09:31 PM
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james bay frontierOnt.
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Those buggers must run in packs  Just tanned up 85 from this past season. 
Last edited by Boco; 08/01/18 09:37 PM.
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Re: #155 for fisher?
[Re: Boco]
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08/02/18 11:02 AM
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No you want to keep the ratio of adult females to juveniles low.There are several methods to avoid adult females like not setting in core habitat,spreading out sets to exclude the smaller female home ranges and stopping trapping early if the juvenile harvest drops off.A large number of juveniles wont make it past late winter due to the natural thinning when the carrying capacity of the land is set at that time,regardless of whether they are trapped or not.Juveniles that cannot establish a home range are the ones that have the toughest time and usually don't make it.
The dispersing juveniles are much more succeptable to trapping and can be fairly easily targeted if you know your ground well and set up in the travel corridors between core habitats.
In my country the travel corridors for marten are the timbered drainages through old burns and the funnels around chains of lakes etc.
These methods have worked very well on my registered traplines here over the last 35 years of management.
Hoe do you manage your resource when there are 10 guys trapping the same ground and you don't know what the other guy is doing?
The good thing is most of us don't get far from a road. There are lots of fisher/marten that don't get near a set.
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Re: #155 for fisher?
[Re: proratman]
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08/02/18 07:22 PM
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Yep,I target them with extra boxes where they are heaviest so as not to miss marten.They also sell well when tanned.
I learned where the most reds,weasels and marten were on the line over the years by marking the boxes after each catch to help with the record keeping.Just one little trick I picked up from a fellow trapper who has a degree as a wildlife biologist.
Last edited by Boco; 08/02/18 07:26 PM.
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Re: #155 for fisher?
[Re: proratman]
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08/03/18 10:31 AM
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Boco and Ebsurveyor! Both of you have great pictures and in depth coverage of trapping in the north country! Always a great post to read when either of you contribute! Thanks, you gearing up for NY or ME?
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