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Re: ‘Hunters do not have the right’ [Re: Ryan McLeod] #6290907
07/31/18 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted By: Ryan McLeod
. . . I always laugh at antis who think saving one bear will make a difference.


That's their philosophy. Antis focus on individual critters, while wildlife management focuses on populations.

Antis don't believe in management.

Re: ‘Hunters do not have the right’ [Re: Ray B] #6291562
07/31/18 10:27 PM
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I met Mangelsen thirty years ago when I worked a winter outside of Jackson Hole, thought he was a weirdo back then....strange duck.


Dont choose to stand in a pile of crap then complain about the smell...
Re: ‘Hunters do not have the right’ [Re: marathonman] #6291943
08/01/18 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted By: marathonman
Wyoming should put into effect an alternates list for the drawing...a way to issue extra permits for the ones that are wasted


I think that they have foreseen this situation, though I am not 100 percent sure, I read these two sections to mean they keep going down the list until the season ends or they meet the mortality limits:

(iv) If a licensee harvests a male grizzly bear or fails to harvest a grizzly bear during their specified hunting period in hunt areas 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6, the next individual on the grizzly bear license issuance list may be contacted in accordance with this section.

(v) If grizzly bear mortality limits have not been met for hunt areas 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6, the grizzly bear license issuance list shall remain in effect through the close of the season.

Re: ‘Hunters do not have the right’ [Re: Jurassic Park] #6291948
08/01/18 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted By: Jurassic Park
So are only the 10 hunters allowed in this area meaning no other people allowed to even hike, sight see, camp etc?


The only restrictions are on the number of grizzly bear hunters. Only one grizzly hunter in the field during each 10 day period.

Re: ‘Hunters do not have the right’ [Re: Ray B] #6291992
08/01/18 03:45 PM
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His decision to take a camera instead of a gun might come back to bite him........lol


I married a moonshiner's daughter and I love her still!
Re: ‘Hunters do not have the right’ [Re: Ray B] #6292050
08/01/18 05:38 PM
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Re: ‘Hunters do not have the right’ [Re: Ray B] #6292107
08/01/18 06:46 PM
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So anti’s are giving money to the game commission for tags they won’t use, allowing the game commission to issue more tags? Sounds like a financial boon for the game department!!
He’ll end up like Timothy Treadwell eventually.


Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Boco couldn't catch a cold.

But if he did, it would be Top Lot.
Re: ‘Hunters do not have the right’ [Re: Ray B] #6292155
08/01/18 07:38 PM
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its really no different than "hunters" who apply for special or low # tags and then dont even end up hunting.

It happens here all the time. one unit has 1,000 people apply for 12 mtn goat tags. out of the twelve, 6 hunted, 5 were successful and only 2 (myself and one other) harvested an animal over 3 years old, mine was 10, the other was 9.

If he wants to pay to enter the lottery, buy the tag, and then use a camera, thats his choice. at least he is a greenie that is contributing to the cost of management..


Originally Posted By: Malukchuk
I'll take wolves over idiots any day.
Re: ‘Hunters do not have the right’ [Re: Hupurest] #6292182
08/01/18 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: Hupurest
its really no different than "hunters" who apply for special or low # tags and then dont even end up hunting.

It happens here all the time. one unit has 1,000 people apply for 12 mtn goat tags. out of the twelve, 6 hunted, 5 were successful and only 2 (myself and one other) harvested an animal over 3 years old, mine was 10, the other was 9.

If he wants to pay to enter the lottery, buy the tag, and then use a camera, thats his choice. at least he is a greenie that is contributing to the cost of management..
I heard that goat you shot was extra smelly and had crossed eyes.


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Re: ‘Hunters do not have the right’ [Re: upstateNY] #6292403
08/02/18 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted By: upstateNY
Originally Posted By: Hupurest
its really no different than "hunters" who apply for special or low # tags and then dont even end up hunting.

It happens here all the time. one unit has 1,000 people apply for 12 mtn goat tags. out of the twelve, 6 hunted, 5 were successful and only 2 (myself and one other) harvested an animal over 3 years old, mine was 10, the other was 9.

If he wants to pay to enter the lottery, buy the tag, and then use a camera, thats his choice. at least he is a greenie that is contributing to the cost of management..
I heard that goat you shot was extra smelly and had crossed eyes.


You probably didn’t hear that it would be top 5 in the books and only 1/8” in length from the current world record. We don’t judge their eyes like you have to with women in Oswego.


Originally Posted By: Malukchuk
I'll take wolves over idiots any day.
Re: ‘Hunters do not have the right’ [Re: Law Dog] #6292524
08/02/18 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted By: Law Dog
Mess with game management to "help" the species that need controlling! Sound anti stupidity at work.



Very good point law dog, and it makes me wonder if a person could be charged with an offense in regards with hunter harassment by interfering with the permitting process, and its implementation. Permits are issued as part of a wild life management process under the authority of state fish and game, or the respected DNR's of the states. The process of purchasing a permit with the whole purpose, and intent to limit another sportsmen/women an opportunity at the privilege to legally harvest an animal, that is under the authority of the state fish and game, or DNR to manage, that is nothing more than pure hunter harassment. Every person that put in for a permit that was not drawn should sue this clown in civil court as well, maybe that would put a stop to crap like this.


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Re: ‘Hunters do not have the right’ [Re: Ray B] #6292709
08/02/18 01:09 PM
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knowing this, Wyoming should issue one more tag.

Re: ‘Hunters do not have the right’ [Re: Ray B] #6292734
08/02/18 01:53 PM
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Sounds like Ca people who moved to Wy to avoid the problems Ca has but want Wy to be like Ca.The anti's remind me of that one kid in school who all he did was taunt people and all you want to do is punch him in the kisser.


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Re: ‘Hunters do not have the right’ [Re: Hupurest] #6292843
08/02/18 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: Hupurest
[quote=upstateNY][quote=Hupurest]its really no different than "hunters" who apply for special or low # tags and then dont even end up hunting.



You probably didn’t hear that it would be top 5 in the books and only 1/8” in length from the current world record. We don’t judge their eyes like you have to with women in Oswego.
Hey,women in Oswego have summer eyes.Summer here and summer there.hahahaha


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Re: ‘Hunters do not have the right’ [Re: Ray B] #6292964
08/02/18 07:40 PM
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I don't know how they do it there or in other states, but here in Maine they base the following year's tag allocation by the ratio of previous year's tags issued to critters killed. So anti's buying up tags and not hunting is only inflating the tags issued for the following year, defeating their purpose.

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Re: ‘Hunters do not have the right’ [Re: Ray B] #6293072
08/02/18 10:01 PM
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Simple fix to this. Only those who have harvested big game in the state are allowed to enter the lottery. Lets see if the Antis are willing to gun down Bambi to save Boo:)

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