Beavers tangling on drowners
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07/12/18 11:06 PM
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Been getting more nuisance calls lately. Mostly Rocky shorelines with brush, boulders, weeds...mb 750 on a wire. Last three beaver, hind foot caught, were waiting for me, tangled real close to where they stepped on the pan. I much prefer them four feet down, especially with cottagers around. Slide locks and 3/32 cable. Used a chain drowner on the first one, and even managed to tangle that. About forty lbs of rock in a feed bag, and I try to make sure the cable is tight as can be. Seems like they aren't jumping for the water, and as soon as they tangle once, it's all over. I know I have a lot more to tangle on than a muddy dam or slide, and conibears aren't useful most of these places.
Any ideas on avoiding tangles? Never had this issue fur trapping because I usually set two traps on a mudded house, and have two beaver next day. Easy peasy. They just don't wanna go down!
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Re: Beavers tangling on drowners
[Re: Hutchy]
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07/12/18 11:08 PM
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You need to shorten the distance of your slide lock to the trap.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Beavers tangling on drowners
[Re: Hutchy]
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07/12/18 11:11 PM
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I have mine 2 links from the trap.But 6 inches doesn't seem long enough to cause tangling.What are they tangling on?Brush?
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Re: Beavers tangling on drowners
[Re: Hutchy]
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Brush mostly, but one got kind of wedged into a couple rocks, and then into some alder. Always some grass in there somewhere. The most recent one today was an old beaver chew that stuck up maybe four inches. I set the trap beside it to guide it's foot. Was smooth and tapered. Still managed to kink the cable around it. What a mess lol
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Re: Beavers tangling on drowners
[Re: Hutchy]
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07/12/18 11:17 PM
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You gotta clear all that stuff away,or set a more open spot. 1 stick sticking up and they will tangle and not go down.
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Re: Beavers tangling on drowners
[Re: Hutchy]
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07/13/18 01:33 AM
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Yea Hutchy,Smoke in town last couple days. There is a bunch of fires burning in the far north west of Attawapiskat,they don't bother to fight those fires,too remote,just let them burn out.
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Re: Beavers tangling on drowners
[Re: Timber Hole]
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07/13/18 05:40 AM
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Most of my drown sets are in soft bottom ponds and sloughs. Never have a problem with tangles. Usually use 1/2 of a masonry block on the end of a 3/32 cable and then drive a stick thru the hole in the block and into the mud bottom. I have one crossover where the bottom is harder and rocky. It’s too deep to drive a stick at the end of the cable. I have had 2 beaver tangle at this location and both were waiting for me near the shore line when I arrived. Both were able to pull the dead man a little towards the shore line. Ironically this location is the deepest spot I set and I would have never guessed I’d have this problem. Are they dragging your deadman towards the shore? They might move it a few inches to a foot since a sideways pull on a tight rope has so much power. The rock in the feedbag always hangs up on a rock or obstruction fast. because shorelines are so varied I'd need a twenty foot long rod. Would likely work good, but really cumbersome. If still need the anchor too for the deep end. No mud
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Re: Beavers tangling on drowners
[Re: Aix sponsa]
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07/13/18 05:41 AM
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I’d make the location entanglement free or pick a new location. With rocks, traps are begging to wedge or hang chain in crevices. I wonder if snares would snag as easily in this case? I know with snares, I clear all small stumps, or I won’t set a snare within reach. Guess traps and rock wedges and snares/small entanglement are comparable in that respect.
Ya, didn't think there was an easy answer. Just the area I guess. Too much darn rock!
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[Re: Boco]
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07/13/18 05:43 AM
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Yea Hutchy,Smoke in town last couple days. There is a bunch of fires burning in the far north west of Attawapiskat,they don't bother to fight those fires,too remote,just let them burn out. Those fires up there end up getting like, thousands of hectares in size don't they?
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Re: Beavers tangling on drowners
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07/13/18 09:35 AM
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I hated trapping beaver in the rocks(Temagami area)
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Re: Beavers tangling on drowners
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07/13/18 09:52 AM
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I appreciate all the suggestions. They make a lot of sense.
Keep in mind though that in the vast majority of locations, I have solid bedrock. Like, zero dirt of any kind. Fur trapping means I can choose my locations easily and pick places like swamps, dams, etc,...places where there is mud and trapping is easy. With nuisance work, beaver like to chew down trees, build houses, etc near boat docks and landings. And these cottages are always built on the most picturesque areas. Flat bedrock. haha. I have a few traps out now. Ill post some pics of my setups and see what you guys think from there. Maybe I am missing something, or ways exist I am unfamiliar with. For now I am going to add a lot more rock to the bag, and make sure that drown cable is tight tight when set.
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