No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4
Harley Davidson announces #6266921
06/25/18 06:47 PM
06/25/18 06:47 PM
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 193
belknap county nh
R
rick2527 Offline OP
trapper
rick2527  Offline OP
trapper
R

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 193
belknap county nh
https://www.npr.org/2018/06/25/623140949...uction-overseas

Harley-Davidson says it plans to move production of motorcycles it sells in Europe overseas in response to growing trade friction between the United States and Europe.

European officials last week imposed stiff tariffs on a wide range of U.S.-made goods sold within the European Union. The move came in response to President Trump's recent decision to slap tariffs on European imports.

In a Securities and Exchange Commission filing Monday, Harley-Davidson said the tariffs imposed by the EU "would have an immediate and lasting detrimental impact to its business in the region."

The company reported $5.65 billion in revenues last year and Europe is its largest overseas market, with almost 40,000 customers buying motorcycles there in 2017.

EU Tariffs Take Effect, Retaliating For Trump's Tariffs On Steel And Aluminum
BUSINESS
EU Tariffs Take Effect, Retaliating For Trump's Tariffs On Steel And Aluminum
Harley Hopes An Electric Hog Will Appeal To Young, Urban Riders
TECHNOLOGY
Harley Hopes An Electric Hog Will Appeal To Young, Urban Riders
The European tariffs have jumped from 6 percent to 31 percent, the company said. That increase will add $2,200 on average to the cost of each motorcycle sold in the EU and would cost the company $90 million to $100 million a year, the filing said.

"Increasing international production to alleviate the EU tariff burden is not the company's preference, but represents the only sustainable option to make its motorcycles accessible to customers in the EU and maintain a viable business in Europe," the filing said.

A History Of Harleys
The company did not say where production would be shifted, or how many jobs might be affected, but said the move would take nine to 18 months to complete.

It also did not say which U.S. factories would be affected. The company's U.S. factories are in York, Pa.; Kansas City, Mo.; and Menomonee Falls, Wis. It also has manufacturing operations in Australia, Brazil, India and Thailand.

Re: Harley Davidson announces [Re: rick2527] #6266930
06/25/18 07:08 PM
06/25/18 07:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 10,121
WI - Wisconsin
A
AJE Offline
trapper
AJE  Offline
trapper
A

Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 10,121
WI - Wisconsin
I just saw the Wi governor on the local news talking about this.

Re: Harley Davidson announces [Re: rick2527] #6266940
06/25/18 07:17 PM
06/25/18 07:17 PM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Tweed Offline
trapper
Tweed  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Id asume it would be the PA plant. Theyre always having issues at that plant it seems

Re: Harley Davidson announces [Re: rick2527] #6266944
06/25/18 07:22 PM
06/25/18 07:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,089
North East Kansas
Marty Offline
trapper
Marty  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,089
North East Kansas
America first will be messy but it is necessary. America has been a doormat for too long. Stop it now or it will never stop.


E
'Honey Badger Militia'
Sleep, the anti woke adote.
Re: Harley Davidson announces [Re: rick2527] #6266949
06/25/18 07:30 PM
06/25/18 07:30 PM
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 387
Kansas
N
nt2 Offline
trapper
nt2  Offline
trapper
N

Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 387
Kansas
I may be mistaken, but I think the Kansas City plant was scheduled to close about this time next year before the tariff battle ever started.


Providing wild fur to the industry at below the cost of production for over 50 years.

Mostly carbon neutral since 1948.

Re: Harley Davidson announces [Re: rick2527] #6266955
06/25/18 07:36 PM
06/25/18 07:36 PM
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 7,244
West Michigan
G
Getting There Offline
trapper
Getting There  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 7,244
West Michigan
I think they are looking at the 500 & 750cc cycles. I have yet to see that many in the U.S.


To Old
U.S. Army 60-63 SGT.
Re: Harley Davidson announces [Re: rick2527] #6266958
06/25/18 07:41 PM
06/25/18 07:41 PM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Tweed Offline
trapper
Tweed  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Will be interesting to see how they spin it for the rally in 2 months

Last edited by Tweed; 06/25/18 07:42 PM.
Re: Harley Davidson announces [Re: rick2527] #6266966
06/25/18 07:51 PM
06/25/18 07:51 PM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 6,552
Wi.
D
Diggerman Offline
trapper
Diggerman  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 6,552
Wi.
The cycles being built over seas will be sold over seas, got no problem with that.

Re: Harley Davidson announces [Re: rick2527] #6267005
06/25/18 08:30 PM
06/25/18 08:30 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,945
Oakland, MS
Drifter Offline
trapper
Drifter  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,945
Oakland, MS
Bought any parts for a Harley lately? Tires, tubes and most electronics isn't made in the US. They didn't drop prices any either. The Kansas City plant was already being shut down and moved to the PA plant. That was in the news right before the election I believe. It has three assembly plants outside the United States - one each in Brazil, India and Thailand.


Some individuals use statistics as a drunk man uses lamp-posts — for support rather than for illumination.

Andrew Lang (1844-1912) Scottish poet, novelist and literary critic









Life member NTA , and GA Trappers assoc .
Re: Harley Davidson announces [Re: rick2527] #6267013
06/25/18 08:40 PM
06/25/18 08:40 PM
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 4,591
MN
D
Donnersurvivor Offline
trapper
Donnersurvivor  Offline
trapper
D

Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 4,591
MN
Overseas shipping is a huge consumer of fossil fuels and a major source of pollution, when possible items should be built close to were they are consumed, shipping in cars from Germany and shipping out motorcycles was never a good long term plan, build things closer to their end users!

Re: Harley Davidson announces [Re: rick2527] #6267024
06/25/18 08:53 PM
06/25/18 08:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,691
Wisconsin
G
Green Bay Offline
trapper
Green Bay  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,691
Wisconsin
Brother in law is an engineer for Harley in Milwaukee - he said they began discussing this the day Europe began signalling new tariffs.


Author of The Lure Hunter: A Guide to Finding Fishing Lures
Re: Harley Davidson announces [Re: Green Bay] #6267034
06/25/18 09:01 PM
06/25/18 09:01 PM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Tweed Offline
trapper
Tweed  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: Green Bay
Brother in law is an engineer for Harley in Milwaukee - he said they began discussing this the day Europe began signalling new tariffs.



Yup.... There's been buzz for the last month. Not just at Harley but at all the large shops around town.

Might have to move back to Racine and work at Bombardier or Foxconn

Re: Harley Davidson announces [Re: Drifter] #6267039
06/25/18 09:05 PM
06/25/18 09:05 PM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Tweed Offline
trapper
Tweed  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 3,660
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: Drifter
Bought any parts for a Harley lately? Tires, tubes and most electronics isn't made in the US. They didn't drop prices any either. The Kansas City plant was already being shut down and moved to the PA plant. That was in the news right before the election I believe. It has three assembly plants outside the United States - one each in Brazil, India and Thailand.


Exactly... Honda is more American than Harley.

Re: Harley Davidson announces [Re: Diggerman] #6267045
06/25/18 09:08 PM
06/25/18 09:08 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,165
Central NC
T
traprjohn Offline
trapper
traprjohn  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,165
Central NC
Originally Posted By: Diggerman
The cycles being built over seas will be sold over seas, got no problem with that.


exactly, it avoids the stinking tariff wars getting worse daily, which will help us stockholders


www.sevenoakstrappingsupplies.com for trap mods and gear
The 10 Commandments are not suggestions.
Buy a soldiers meal EVERY chance you can.

Re: Harley Davidson announces [Re: rick2527] #6267111
06/25/18 10:20 PM
06/25/18 10:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,056
Morehead city NC
JakeDog Offline
trapper
JakeDog  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,056
Morehead city NC
The sky is falling! the sky's falling!


Suppression rules/prevention drools

Confidence is going fly fishing for Moby Dick, in a row boat, and bringing tartar sauce with you.
Re: Harley Davidson announces [Re: Drifter] #6267215
06/26/18 05:28 AM
06/26/18 05:28 AM
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,759
east TN, USA
harleydparts Offline
trapper
harleydparts  Offline
trapper

Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,759
east TN, USA
Originally Posted By: Drifter
Bought any parts for a Harley lately? Tires, tubes and most electronics isn't made in the US. They didn't drop prices any either. The Kansas City plant was already being shut down and moved to the PA plant. That was in the news right before the election I believe. It has three assembly plants outside the United States - one each in Brazil, India and Thailand.

I used to get a big kick out of the 'Jap crap' 'buy American ' attitude from some Harley owners back in the day. I'd ask "how's that Showa front end ride?" .


Not as bad as I could be, not as good as I should be.
Re: Harley Davidson announces [Re: rick2527] #6267283
06/26/18 07:45 AM
06/26/18 07:45 AM
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 13,214
Ky
J
jbyrd63 Online content
trapper
jbyrd63  Online Content
trapper
J

Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 13,214
Ky
OK let me get this straight. People are saying "OH NO ! Trump's tariffs are going to make companies leave. It will make goods cost more!" Well if foreign countries are paying too much to import and our companies are moving to avoid the tariffs then MAYBE some of the foreign countries will move their plants here....

Also if China puts tariffs on our goods it will dilute the profit? But if we put tariffs on China's goods it will cost the people more. Ok which is it? Why can't our goods just cost the Chinese people more and not dilute the profits from goods made here. Classic case of media not using the same rules for both countries......

Re: Harley Davidson announces [Re: harleydparts] #6267294
06/26/18 08:14 AM
06/26/18 08:14 AM
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 4,238
Illinois
R
ratbrain Offline
trapper
ratbrain  Offline
trapper
R

Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 4,238
Illinois
Originally Posted By: harleydparts
Originally Posted By: Drifter
Bought any parts for a Harley lately? Tires, tubes and most electronics isn't made in the US. They didn't drop prices any either. The Kansas City plant was already being shut down and moved to the PA plant. That was in the news right before the election I believe. It has three assembly plants outside the United States - one each in Brazil, India and Thailand.

I used to get a big kick out of the 'Jap crap' 'buy American ' attitude from some Harley owners back in the day. I'd ask "how's that Showa front end ride?" .


THIS. I have owned a Harley since the early 70s. H-D used Showa suspension parts in the later 70s.

Re: Harley Davidson announces [Re: jbyrd63] #6267323
06/26/18 08:48 AM
06/26/18 08:48 AM
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 16,951
OH
Catch22 Offline
trapper
Catch22  Offline
trapper

Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 16,951
OH
Originally Posted By: jbyrd63
OK let me get this straight. People are saying "OH NO ! Trump's tariffs are going to make companies leave. It will make goods cost more!" Well if foreign countries are paying too much to import and our companies are moving to avoid the tariffs then MAYBE some of the foreign countries will move their plants here....

Also if China puts tariffs on our goods it will dilute the profit? But if we put tariffs on China's goods it will cost the people more. Ok which is it? Why can't our goods just cost the Chinese people more and not dilute the profits from goods made here. Classic case of media not using the same rules for both countries......

Here's more jobs coming in. Harley Davidson's are over priced anyway lol. Steel plant reopening by UK firm to avoid tariff.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Harley Davidson announces [Re: rick2527] #6267336
06/26/18 09:02 AM
06/26/18 09:02 AM
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 256
Mo, Ozarks
3
316 Offline
trapper
316  Offline
trapper
3

Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 256
Mo, Ozarks
Harley uses parts made outside of the USA and likes to boast that they are American made.. Plants in India, Brazil, Thailand and parts from everywhere else but they make bank on "American Made".. Just an excuse to move more production overseas.. It's all about the stock holders not American workers. Look at all the dress-up stuff they sell in there boutiques and try to find something made in the USA.. American made my ___

Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread