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Re: Carburetor help [Re: Kre] #6219668
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if you can get the main jet out without taking the whole carb off, its worth a try. as noted, count your turns and put back the same.

a new air filter is easy and cheap also.
might as well check the float while you are in there - may need a manual to tell you where it should be.

can probably find a specification for how much the fuel pump should be pushing out as well and check it.


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Originally Posted By: l1ranger
if you can get the main jet out without taking the whole carb off, its worth a try. as noted, count your turns and put back the same.


So, do I tighten this all the way when I'm counting the turns? Then when I put it back in, tighten it completely and back it off the appropriate # of turns?

Re: Carburetor help [Re: Kre] #6219723
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Originally Posted By: Kre
Originally Posted By: l1ranger
if you can get the main jet out without taking the whole carb off, its worth a try. as noted, count your turns and put back the same.


So, do I tighten this all the way when I'm counting the turns? Then when I put it back in, tighten it completely and back it off the appropriate # of turns?


The main jets I have changed are not adjustable by number of turns . Just tighten all the way.


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Re: Carburetor help [Re: Kre] #6219898
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If it's running fine at idle and up to half throttle as you say it's not the carb. You need to rebuild your fuel pump. It has a diaphragm in it and springs. The springs are sticking or the diaphragm has a pin hole in it.

Seen it many times. Most carbs in todays world have no adjustment, they are a one shot wonder eco friendly JUNK. IE replace only. What you describe is the fuel pump. It's not getting enough fuel at full throttle.


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Originally Posted By: BBarnes
If it's running fine at idle and up to half throttle as you say it's not the carb. You need to rebuild your fuel pump. It has a diaphragm in it and springs. The springs are sticking or the diaphragm has a pin hole in it.

Seen it many times. Most carbs in todays world have no adjustment, they are a one shot wonder eco friendly JUNK. IE replace only. What you describe is the fuel pump. It's not getting enough fuel at full throttle.


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Keep in mind this an Onan engine. This isn't something that's new. I believe it was built in the 80's.

But, I hope you're right about the fuel pump, because that would be the easiest fix...and cheap.

Re: Carburetor help [Re: Kre] #6219981
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All the mechanics here will laugh, and i'm one, but having raced for years on dirt where carbs will get some crap in them, try this.

Rev the engine and them block the intake with your hand. The added vaccume from blocking the air off will pull the junk thru if that's what your problem is.

Ya wouldn't believe how many times this has worked.

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Originally Posted By: hippie
All the mechanics here will laugh, and i'm one, but having raced for years on dirt where carbs will get some crap in them, try this.

Rev the engine and them block the intake with your hand. The added vaccume from blocking the air off will pull the junk thru if that's what your problem is.

Ya wouldn't believe how many times this has worked.


I will give it a try! Thanks for the tip!

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Might fix it, might not but ya have noting to lose trying it.
First thing i do before taking carb apart, expecially if in a hurry.

Re: Carburetor help [Re: Kre] #6220138
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This sound like an older motor , But have you checked the exhaust to see if it is plugged ?

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Make sure the governor is working freely.

Re: Carburetor help [Re: hippie] #6220309
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Originally Posted By: hippie
All the mechanics here will laugh, and i'm one, but having raced for years on dirt where carbs will get some crap in them, try this.

Rev the engine and them block the intake with your hand. The added vaccume from blocking the air off will pull the junk thru if that's what your problem is.

Ya wouldn't believe how many times this has worked.

You've squirted water in a carb a time or two ain't ya?


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I didn't have much time to work on it last night.

But, it ran completely different last night. I could only really keep it running by keeping it choked or directly squirting gas into the carb.

I'm going to replace the fuel pump before I screw around with it anymore.

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Originally Posted By: hippie
All the mechanics here will laugh, and i'm one, but having raced for years on dirt where carbs will get some crap in them, try this.

Rev the engine and them block the intake with your hand. The added vaccume from blocking the air off will pull the junk thru if that's what your problem is.

Ya wouldn't believe how many times this has worked.


I wouldn't laugh. I do that all the time. Works often enough to keep me trying. I usually put a rag around my hand.

Re: Carburetor help [Re: Kre] #6220538
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Sounds like a potential weak coil or timing advance issue? Once you rule out fuel, I'd look at that spark.

Re: Carburetor help [Re: Kre] #6220544
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I would take bowl off and clean it as well as the main jet. Its where I always start and more than 1/2 the time its the fix.

I switched from Sea Foam to Starbrite a couple years ago as a fuel additive in all my small stuff and cant believe how good it works.

Re: Carburetor help [Re: Kre] #6220555
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First try Heat, use the red bottle.

Re: Carburetor help [Re: Kre] #6221049
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I'm no mechanic but own a few Onans. The carb clean won't hurt but, I bet two coon pelts that the valve clearances are out. The intake should be .005 and exhaust .013. Or that might be the other way around. Either way that is your problem.

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