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Re: Illegal teacher strike [Re: AntiGov] #6209572
04/06/18 07:01 AM
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My daughter's small school never shut down the teachers said they would stay and teach. I am happy for that.

Re: Illegal teacher strike [Re: AntiGov] #6209585
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Teachers are liberal Dem and they gave us Obama when you couldn't buy any 22 ammo.

Re: Illegal teacher strike [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #6209642
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Originally Posted By: Aaron Proffitt
Originally Posted By: Mike in A-town
Our little school was closed Monday... Reopened on Tuesday and back to business as usual.

Mike


Fletcher schools did the same .


All schools did. Easter vacation! laugh


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Re: Illegal teacher strike [Re: Rat Trapper Sr.] #6209650
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Originally Posted By: Rat Trapper Sr.
Teachers are liberal Dem and they gave us Obama when you couldn't buy any 22 ammo.


A gal I grew up with is a teacher and we have always been friends. During campaigns, she posted on FB that "just hating Trump isn't enough"
I said "and you're teaching our children?" I'm not her friend anymore.


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Re: Illegal teacher strike [Re: Mike in A-town] #6209657
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Originally Posted By: Mike in A-town
Originally Posted By: Rat Masterson
Well I hope I don't say anything about the military, next thing you know I'll have to go to Syria for speaking out. One final note, the US spends more money on education than any country in the world yet our students are not anywhere near the top. How is that possible.


Last I checked we were 3rd in per-student spending... Which is close enough to the top to validate your point.

3rd in spending, 24th or 28th in test scores I think.

3rd in per-student spending, yet way down on teacher slaries as well as test scores.

I think Aaron Proffitt was right. We throw lots of money at "education"... But is it being spent in a way that benefits the kids?

Mike



Maybe the problem is WHAT the money is being spent on. Sports facilities count toward the spending. In foreign countries the don't worship the Friday night lights like they do in "some " states.

Re: Illegal teacher strike [Re: AntiGov] #6209659
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Since more taxes is the answer to everything, I imagine eventually farmers won't be able to stay above water farming, and big corporations will own the farmland and use it as a business loss to offset profits somewhere else. Or something like that.
Crete, NE built a new school and some of the better farmland in the district has over $100/acre in property tax now. Charging stations for cellphones is one of the features requested by students, and they got them. Very necessary for an eduction. I don't know if they asked the children what gun laws should be introduced.


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Re: Illegal teacher strike [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #6209665
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Originally Posted By: Aaron Proffitt
We have at least one school district who has suspended classes indefinitely and has notified parents that their kids may have to finish the school year in a different school.

It’s for the kids .

This week is State testing week . Those tests will have to be made up.

It’s for the kids.

I saw a school owned party wagon full of gleeful teachers headed to OKC today on I44 . You’d thought they were headed to Fort Lauderdale.
But it’s for the kids .

Some of our State law makers have received death threats.
Because someone is so passionate about the kids.




I want to address the "testing " issue. My wife proctored theses "test" for as long as they have given them. The test are useless. !!! WHY you may ask. In olden days you had to pass a test to go to the next grade. NOW the test have no names. The students have NO reason to try to perform well. TONS of students just go down the test marking the same slot for each question. NO ACCOUNTABILITY equals NO effort in todays society..

Stop building sports facilities for a small percent of the students !!!!!! But the teachers have junkie school materials........

Re: Illegal teacher strike [Re: Gary Benson] #6209669
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Originally Posted By: Gary Benson
Originally Posted By: Rat Trapper Sr.
Teachers are liberal Dem and they gave us Obama when you couldn't buy any 22 ammo.


A gal I grew up with is a teacher and we have always been friends. During campaigns, she posted on FB that "just hating Trump isn't enough"
I said "and you're teaching our children?" I'm not her friend anymore.



LOL blanket statement. I think Obama won because of the black voters. Some of them that had been dead for years came back just to see history LOL.

Re: Illegal teacher strike [Re: AntiGov] #6209674
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Gary if common sense people like us would go through any government budget we would hack a lot of nonsense spending leaving plenty of money to run our school, cities, states, country.

At every level there is waste. But so much bureaucratic thinking stops this.

They spend more time on coming up with more ways to tax than trying to be smarter with what they have.

The barrel they keep dipping into has been empty for years.

Re: Illegal teacher strike [Re: AntiGov] #6209693
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The US Fed Govt needs 15 yrs of tax revenue TODAY just to get back to being flat broke.....


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Re: Illegal teacher strike [Re: Gary Benson] #6209704
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Originally Posted By: Gary Benson
The US Fed Govt needs 15 yrs of tax revenue TODAY just to get back to being flat broke.....


A good start would be scaling back politicians salaries and pensions. Get them back to reality and a taste of the real world.

Re: Illegal teacher strike [Re: AntiGov] #6209765
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Term limits for all politicians, they won't need pensions or the other perks. Two terms and done.

Re: Illegal teacher strike [Re: Rat Masterson] #6209768
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Originally Posted By: Rat Masterson
Term limits for all politicians, they won't need pensions or the other perks. Two terms and done.


Amen

Re: Illegal teacher strike [Re: AntiGov] #6209775
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Term limits is a fancy way to say you believe voters are too dumb to vote for their own interests. I agree. Look how many people say they like being free, yet vote republican.

Re: Illegal teacher strike [Re: AntiGov] #6209789
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Thats the stupidest thing Ive ever heard.


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Re: Illegal teacher strike [Re: AntiGov] #6209790
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Statistically speaking, very difficult to unseat an incumbent, no matter the party once they become entrenched.

Re: Illegal teacher strike [Re: AntiGov] #6209791
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Gary, Oklahoma schools are usually open the Monday following Easter.


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Re: Illegal teacher strike [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #6209834
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Originally Posted By: Aaron Proffitt
A couple of years ago , there was a move to consolidate a lot of smaller rural districts . The biggest opponent ? The teachers. Kinda leaves one scratching their head.


Think about what all consolidating schools involves. Without much thought, off the top of my head here's a few of the big ones ...
1 -Busing students further. A kid that lives blocks from his school bused 30-45 min one way every day. Means parents have to get them ready earlier, takes an hour to hour and a half out of their schedule a day.
2 -Larger class sizes. Less individual time and less learning opportunity for the students.
3 -Teachers fired. (gee, wonder why they don't support that!) Fewer classrooms means fewer teachers needed.
4 -More kids = more competition. Meaning its going to be tougher to get into any extracurricular activities. Which build kids mentally and physically.

I'm sure when my wife gets home from teaching (20+ years) in a small district, tonight, she could add exponentially to the list.

Re: Illegal teacher strike [Re: AntiGov] #6209879
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ADC I agree as I think the smaller schools are run better and more efficient. Teachers and parents have a better connection as well.

Bigger schools are getting to business like minded and ignore most parents concerns.

Bigger schools are a big part of our failing education system.

Teachers vote left as that's their union but it's the left that keeps dumping on our society.

They can't have it both ways and come out good.

Re: Illegal teacher strike [Re: AntiGov] #6209894
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ADC, thank you for your insight. It's enlightening to hear how someone who has worked in the education profession or has a spouse in the profession understands the "in's and out's" and reasoning behind how and why schools are the way they are.

It's also amazing to me how people who have not stepped foot in a school in the last 20 years can be such experts and know all of the answers to solving our education problems. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.

ADC, thank your wife for the work she does and a pat on the back to you for supporting her.

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