Re: Reason things cost so much.
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[/quote]I am a firm believer in a free and open market and letting consumers decide to buy what they like without interferance. [quote] The trouble is that we have been fighting illegal tariffs and currency manipulation for decades and simply rolling over.
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Re: Reason things cost so much.
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[/quote]Actually there's 3 as the coin could not exist as a two-dimensional plane. Great point. At least with a 50P coin which has five points to go with the sides!
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Re: Reason things cost so much.
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Maybe pricing foreign junk higher might end up being a good thing for the buyer and the Country in the end. Most of the junk we get to choose from is junk in a quality wrapper often. Truer words have never been spoken. Gotta wrap it good to prevent shoplifting.
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Re: Reason things cost so much.
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n I would say the vast majority of people have way more money than they need. The key word there is need. People work like n----- to make more money to buy junk that they use once or not at all and then throw it away in the trash.This consumerism is promoted by companys advertising to make people want stuff they don't need. Most city people go shopping as a recreational activity and the deed becomes more important than the goods. It is really a mass mental illness. I never thought I'd agree with Boco, but I do...
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Re: Reason things cost so much.
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Few things to consider
A manufacture I worked with compared making a part in house Vs. China (magnetic ramp for a Glock)
Same steel, same specs, heat treating....
Cost in house = $9.48 Cost in China with shipping $4.91
Now add in all the costs of business (Compound them!!!)
Manufacture over head and profit + 35 to 40%
cost of sales + 3% to 10%
Distributor + 10% to 25% (Plus cost of shipping)
+ Shipping to Dealer
Now your at Dealer cost...... + 25 to 50% pending for Dealer's overhead and profit
$ 29.99 Vs $13.99 retail to you and I
Second thing that will get everyone's panties in an up-roar. When our women went to work, and remained working post war.
It was the first time in US economics that the vast majority of US families had duel incomes and abundance of cash for luxury items. Fueled the economy by huge leaps and bounds. Families were not only buying A new car, they bought a second car. Spoiled kids with more toys, built / bought bigger homes, and so on.
Multiple things happened. Demand grew beyond supply. Corporations grew and the wave of self-sufficient small companies dwindled. People grew accustom to "having it now". Credit cards became the norm. Profits for shareholders and executives became more important than sustained economics for the "common man".
So here we are today....fueling corporate greed where nearly every family must have duel incomes just to survive.
Spot on!
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Re: Reason things cost so much.
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The rural real estate economy has been skewed and polluted by government interference. Take away the subsidies and the CRP and land prices would readjust to allow new blood into the farm economy. Except the landowner also has to pay the taxes to support the $20 million high schools with cellphone charging stations.
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Re: Reason things cost so much.
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I sat in international trade classes in college. What they taught in theory does not work in practice. They said let the country that can make a product cheapest make it. Then trade to them(directly or though other countries) a product or resource that you produce cheaper than they can. When asked what happens if you have no cheaper item, they say "good," you are getting their item for nothing. They assume you will never have to pay for it.
You probably know the parts of the word "assume." No country will keep sending products for nothing. Also, for convenience, college international economic trade professor ignore other monetary actives such as military aid. They say "Given my assumptions", the theory works. Given enough invalid assumptions anything can work in theory. Forget the assumptions; we live in the real world.
Here is an unrelated story that readers some may find interesting. I was working as a manufacturing cost accountant in Louisville, Ky. Because their presses struggled with thicker steel, my employer chose to farm-out production of a bracket. A company in Indiana quoted a price that seemed too good to be true. I calculated and found they were offering to sell for less than the cost of steel the bracket contained. After my calculations were verified by others the company was confronted. They said "We will stick to our quoted price." Further investigation determined they were making automobile parts and could modify a punch die to cut the bracket from what was otherwise scrap as their press cycled to make an auto part. Moral of the story: Things are not always what they seem.
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Re: Reason things cost so much.
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Further investigation determined they were making automobile parts and could modify a punch die to cut the bracket from what was otherwise scrap as their press cycled to make an auto part. Moral of the story: Things are not always what they seem. Pretty slick. Mike
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Re: Reason things cost so much.
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Further investigation determined they were making automobile parts and could modify a punch die to cut the bracket from what was otherwise scrap as their press cycled to make an auto part. Moral of the story: Things are not always what they seem. Pretty slick. Mike Fart smellers!
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Re: Reason things cost so much.
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There's 2 sides to every coin ... Actually there's 3 as the coin could not exist as a two-dimensional plane. Im surprised you realize that. To bad it doesn't have anything to do with the subject.
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Re: Reason things cost so much.
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Pride Greed Lust Envy Gluttony Wrath Sloth All evident all throughout todays society.And accepted as "normal" or even desireable qualities. Going to (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) in a handbasket.
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Re: Reason things cost so much.
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Re: Reason things cost so much.
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Welcome to the Boco n Hal show
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Re: Reason things cost so much.
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What do you mean HUH? Look on utube at all the Fat f------ shopping all day at wal mart,15 kids in tow, stuffing big macs in their face,on the dole,and full of pride. All the 7 deadly sins on full display,todays society is buggered.
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