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MN HF3022 #6172119
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https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/text.ph...ession_number=0

Take a close look and be sure to read the entire thing.

Re: MN HF3022 [Re: zammerak] #6172151
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Thanks Zam. If I read it correctly a permit would be required to purchase any firearm. "assault weapons" would be illegal, Mags that hold more than 10 rounds illegal, revolving shotguns illegal, suppressors illegal. Also no private sales, would have to go thru a FFL.

Bunch of no good dictators down in St. Paul mad

Re: MN HF3022 [Re: zammerak] #6172159
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that is about what I gathered as well. No gifting, home inspections to ensure you are properly storing the firearm, and if you already own an "assault weapon" (the definition is much broader now) you would have to have a background check each year to keep it.

Re: MN HF3022 [Re: zammerak] #6172167
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* 2 day waiting period on all firearm transactions
* Total ban on all private sales and transfers, including for inheritance, family, curio & relics, and antique firearms
* Complete registration of all firearms
* Bans all "assault weapons", bump stocks, and large capacity magazines
* Makes suppressors illegal again - possession is a felony
* Requires all ammunition to be purchased in-person from a dealer - all ammunition sales will be tracked and registered.
* Prohibits persons delinquent in paying child support from possessing firearms

Re: MN HF3022 [Re: zammerak] #6172169
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Ridiculous. So, half the guns I own would be illegal. I don't even have one of those scary ARs.

Re: MN HF3022 [Re: zammerak] #6172172
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Not illegal to own per say. If you already own the firearm (before 2/1/18) you can keep it as long as you get a background check every year, and allow the state to enter your home and inspect how you store the firearm. You cannot gift it to anyone including your own children however and can only use it at a range or on land that YOU own or control.

Re: MN HF3022 [Re: zammerak] #6172173
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I doubt they will get that passed but if they do it won't be long before I move out of the state, they just made suppressors legal 2 years ago and now they want to make them illegal again. These people in the metro are idiots and lunatics.

I bet the inspection part could be challenged as an unconstitutional invasion of privacy, perhaps even most of it. I own quite a bit of what they want to ban lol, I hear a faint "go west young man" in my ears.

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Re: MN HF3022 [Re: zammerak] #6172174
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This is ignorance at its finest....

Re: MN HF3022 [Re: zammerak] #6172178
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Suppressors!! Yeah right. That will certainly stop mass shootings. I don’t believe a single one of these crimes occurred with aid of a suppressor?

Re: MN HF3022 [Re: zammerak] #6172179
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Legislation like this is why I despise the term "law abiding." Especially when used in conjunction with guns. I much prefer the term "peaceable" or "peaceful." This type of legislation creates criminals out of peaceful people.

Re: MN HF3022 [Re: Birch Tree] #6172181
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Originally Posted By: Birch Tree
I doubt they will get that passed but if they do it won't be long before I move out of the state, they just made suppressors legal 2 years ago and now they want to make them illegal again. These people in the metro are idiots and lunatics.

I bet the inspection part could be challenged as an unconstitutional invasion of privacy, perhaps even most of it. I own quite a bit of what they want to ban lol, I hear a faint "go west young man" in my ears.


Mark, the idiots are running the asylum.

I don't have anything that most of this applies to, but I am still outraged by it.

I've been hearing that faint "go west young man" for years, but it is getting louder.

Re: MN HF3022 [Re: zammerak] #6172183
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What's annoying about this bill is that it evn targets my SKS. I don't even have any Scary Black AR-15s but my little SKS is included. it also includes all kind of other guns. The new "assault weapon" is;

(1) semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has
one or more of the following:

(i) a pistol grip or thumbhole stock;

(ii) any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the
nontrigger hand;

(iii) a folding or telescoping stock; or

(iv) a shroud attached to the barrel or that partially or completely encircles the barrel
allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned, but
excluding a slide that encloses the barrel;

(2) semiautomatic pistol, or any semiautomatic, centerfire, or rimfire rifle with a fixed
magazine, that has the capacity to accept more than seven rounds of ammunition;

(3) semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and has
one or more of the following:

(i) any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the
nontrigger hand;

(ii) a folding, telescoping, or thumbhole stock;

(iii) a shroud attached to the barrel or that partially or completely encircles the barrel
allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned, but
excluding a slide that encloses the barrel; or

(iv) the capacity to accept a detachable magazine at any location outside of the pistol
grip;

(4) semiautomatic shotgun that has one or more of the following:

(i) a pistol grip or thumbhole stock;

(ii) any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the
nontrigger hand;

(iii) a folding or telescoping stock;

(iv) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of seven rounds; or

(v) an ability to accept a detachable magazine;

(5) shotgun with a revolving cylinder; or

(6) conversion kit, part, or combination of parts from which an assault weapon can be
assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

(b) Assault weapon does not include any firearm that has been made permanently
inoperable.

Re: MN HF3022 [Re: zammerak] #6172186
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Looking at current land prices to build our dream house and now the anti-gun push is enough to make me want to move but I have to talk my wife into it, she doesn't like moving but she also doesn't like government telling us what to do, she is from Ukraine and she knows the real value of the 2A also!


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Originally Posted By: zammerak
Not illegal to own per say. If you already own the firearm (before 2/1/18) you can keep it as long as you get a background check every year, and allow the state to enter your home and inspect how you store the firearm. You cannot gift it to anyone including your own children however and can only use it at a range or on land that YOU own or control.


Lucky for me I sold all of mine last year. The guy paid cash and I can't remember his name..................


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: MN HF3022 [Re: zammerak] #6172298
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Bunch of democrat authors. That bill wont go anywhere. The Speaker of the House is very pro gun and sensible


"They that can give up essential liberty to gain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety" Ben Franklin talking about guns
Re: MN HF3022 [Re: zammerak] #6172555
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What a waste of our Governments time and money!!


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Re: MN HF3022 [Re: zammerak] #6172686
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Any Ruger 10/22 would be illegal also. Funny how the child support thing got thrown into a gun bill.


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Re: MN HF3022 [Re: zammerak] #6172699
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Welcome to New York


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Re: MN HF3022 [Re: zammerak] #6172752
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Rally, I have no idea why the child support bit is in there. My worry about that is it is a toe hold to later amend it to be something as silly as "if you have been caught speeding you are no longer able to own a firearm since you are willing to put lives in danger with your car, so you cant have guns."

Re: MN HF3022 [Re: zammerak] #6172768
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I wunder what the Republicans will counter offer. Pinning pongg.

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