Re: Connie Rice is Confused!
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I don't know if I trust that Trump would "hold" the line on the assault weapons ban.
At present I trust the house and senate more. At present.
assault weapons, my arse,that is a liberal spin from Dianna Fienstien from several years ago when the libs tried to make the black rifle the scary gun, Barbara Boxer even said at one point if they (ar-15)didn't have those barrel shrouds she would be in favor of reconsidering the ban on them. then pulled back on her statement.for anyone who has not drank the cool-aid the left has been feeding people and those that have, any tool used to attack another is an assault weapon from a ink pen to a sub-machine gun.
BORN ON A MOUNTAIN,RAISED IN A CAVE, HUNTING AND TRAPPING IS WHAT I CRAVE!
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Re: Connie Rice is Confused!
[Re: Marty]
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02/25/18 01:46 PM
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"I don’t understand why civilians need to have access to military weapons. We wouldn’t say you can go out and buy a tank.”
Is it illegal to own a tank? I've kinda been kickiing it around...
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Re: Connie Rice is Confused!
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02/25/18 02:31 PM
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I think I should have a tank,and a rocket launcher and a bazooka and some hand grenades. No skin off my nose and none of my business what you own and use. Once it becomes my business because you took skin off my nose is the only reason for your 2A rights to be questioned. Otherwise, knock yourself out enjoying your freedom.
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Re: Connie Rice is Confused!
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I think I should have a tank,and a rocket launcher and a bazooka and some hand grenades. I do also. Depending on your state laws you can there are no federal laws that ban ownership just a lot of hoops to jump through such as Depends on State laws. Federally, machine guns are registered under the National Firearms Act of '34, and to be legally transferable for civilian ownership it needs to have been registered before the registry closed in 1986. $200 tax and a Form 4 to register. For an RPG, it'd be an Explosive Destructive Device... assuming it was legally imported, again, $200 and a Form 4. Let's say you could get somebody to sell you an Abrams, roll-away, just as a thought experiment. The coaxial 7.62 and the commander's hatch gun would be illegal MG's and have to be scrapped, the main gun at greater than 1/2" bore and no sporting purpose is a Large Bore Destructive Device ($200 and a Form 4), and each shell is an Explosive DD (which means $200 and a Form 4 EACH). And, oh by the way, you ALSO have to make sure it's kosher under all State and Local laws too... Just as an aside I know a guy who has all of those and more as well as one of the largest collections of full auto guns in the country. It can get to be a real expensive hobby really fast
�Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.� ― Robert A. Heinlein
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Re: Connie Rice is Confused!
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I agree with Marty, she mean AR style weapons IMHO.
Yep, and she's saying the Constitution is a living document. Not good... Yep, we are all clear on what she meant even though she skirted around it. And the Constitution can be a living document. It just takes a majority of Americans to decide we need a convention to amend it. We amended it to end slavery and recognize the right of women to vote. If enough Americans feel this strongly about the matter then they can call for a convention to amend the 2A concerning "military style" weapons... Otherwise quit trying to pass silly stupid laws that don't pass a Constitutional litmus test. Mike
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Re: Connie Rice is Confused!
[Re: Marty]
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02/25/18 03:30 PM
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After the Heller decision I don't know how in the world the NFA is still standing.
Mike
One man with a gun may control 100 others who have none.
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Re: Connie Rice is Confused!
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After the Heller decision I don't know how in the world the NFA is still standing.
Mike after that decision i dont know why anyone is having any conversation on gun control. period.
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Re: Connie Rice is Confused!
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I agree with Marty, she mean AR style weapons IMHO.
Yep, and she's saying the Constitution is a living document. Not good... It will only live if it can be defended.
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Re: Connie Rice is Confused!
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02/25/18 05:16 PM
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Her own words were......discussion about the 2nd in the modern world.
That's what I was referring to Lug. The discussion needs to be about the other gazillion things that need fixed imo, not adapting the Constitution to fit the "modern world" and their agenda.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: Connie Rice is Confused!
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02/25/18 05:19 PM
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The only thing that needs fixed about the 2nd is that states should not be allowed to infringe on it with state laws. Federal law trumps state law except for illegal guns and legal drugs....
E 'Honey Badger Militia' Sleep, the anti woke adote.
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Re: Connie Rice is Confused!
[Re: Marty]
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02/25/18 05:23 PM
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Some state Constitutions have freedom-to-bear-arms articles that are worded more clearly than 2A.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Connie Rice is Confused!
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02/25/18 05:29 PM
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After the Heller decision I don't know how in the world the NFA is still standing.
Mike after that decision i dont know why anyone is having any conversation on gun control. period. I'm just a layman but how I interpreted Heller was Justice Scalia left a lot of doors wide open.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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Re: Connie Rice is Confused!
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Her own words were......discussion about the 2nd in the modern world.
That's what I was referring to Lug. The discussion needs to be about the other gazillion things that need fixed imo, not adapting the Constitution to fit the "modern world" and their agenda. I understand and I share everyone's concern. But I don't think she ever refereed to the Constitution as a "living document", that is a liberal term and Condi has always been very pro-Constitution and pro 2A. During the interview she addressed several of the other issues regarding the Parkland shooting including on-campus armed security and the failure of authorities to act given all the warning signs with this individual. She did indicate she was not a fan of arming teachers but preferred trained security personnel.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Connie Rice is Confused!
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02/25/18 05:36 PM
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Not being in favor of allowing a teacher the option to carry a gun to defend themselves is an anti gun/anti 2nd position.
Gun free/kill zones need to be outlawed.
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Re: Connie Rice is Confused!
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I would have voted for her if she had run. A good person with real life experiences......jk
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Re: Connie Rice is Confused!
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In 15 years in the military including four Desert tours...I never saw an AR 15. Never have considered an AR a military weapon. Anyone here think an M16 and AR15 are the same thing? The first M-16s issued to US personnel were often stamped "Colt ArmaLite AR-15" Ref: Pages 744–759 "Small Arms of the World" 12th Revised Edition by Edward Clinton Ezell.
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Re: Connie Rice is Confused!
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So what did she mean in the first paragraph?
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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