You can take a man out of the marine corp
But you can't take the marine corp out of a man

Females Adam. They train with the men.

So, when the troop goes on a forced march with full load they go at the pace of the slowest woman? Sign me up!

I read recently that now Marine officers course will not drop someone who falls out of a march. Hmm, a recent development after the admittance of female officer candidates.
My experience with officers was that they their intelligence could be questioned, but their fitness and toughness was beyond reproach because they had proven it in IOC. I never witnessed it, but the belief in the unit would disappear rapidly if an officer fell out of his own march.

I can't imagine that happening !!!


Even when I was in basic (1966) if you dropped out you were going to get a beating from fellow recruits !

yup.

Ditto white17 64-70

I hear you White17.

Go back to the discipline days and men training together.

Let the women train with women DI!

It doesn't work well at all.

Does sexual advances and rape come to mind??????

Then the Social Engineers wonder why we can't change what's developed over 50,000 years on this earth.

Idiots!

It is about time. 60-63 need I say more. JMO

The Army quit training soldiers some time ago.
Political correctness has affected every branch of the military. Land nav??? I doubt most of the new "recruits" could find the mess hall unless it's a waypoint on their GPS.
I went though BCT in '69 and it was no party. Jump school was tough but I enjoyed every minute as I did Infantry School and the Ranger Course. That said, the qualifications have been relaxed so females can qualify for their wings and everything else
. That kind of thought may please the politicians and families but it does not do a soldier any good in a fire fight.

Rangers Lead The Way...

I heard the same thing. I have a very good friend in the corps that told me the same thing. Only he used a lot of bad language when doing so.

Women in combat roles is generally not a good idea but there are members of both sexes that have a great deal of heart.

Land nav. I learned how to in the Panama Jungle(Ft,Sherman, Jungle Expert School). Not an easy task. Sarge

And as a Army vet we learned that also in basic over 30yrs ago.

Sorry to say, but yes you can. My son is a prime example.

We had a similar situation with really bad results. E6 showing a couple cruise how to fuse a bangalore and had a bad crimp on the cap. He thought tapping it back into place was a bright idea.

in the 70s we trained with females. Grenade training and throwing a live grenade on the course was a interesting thing to observe. Many females did not have the upper body strength required to throw the grenade very far from their position. it was a good thing there were protective barriers in place. One female threw for a whopping 5ft. Di through her down on the ground behind the barrier and followed suit. do they believe that they enemy won't use grenades, navigate in the dark or use weapons with a protective mask? These recruits can not rely on electronic devices to navigate...........bwtteries die and there may be no source for recharge or supply. May God be with them.

90% of women are weaker than the weakest 5% of men. The sexes are different, no matter what liberals think and no matter how much they try to beat down and weaken men.

https://www.livescience.com/52998-women-combat-gender-differences.html

Most women are incapable of doing the more physically demanding jobs in the military. Lowering the standards to keep women and weak men in the military, makes our military less capable to perform the tasks it needs to perform.

People are not all the same. They should all be treated decently, but people perform differently.

Keith

When I was In the Corps the BAMs worked as office staff. And If you couldn't cut It mentally or physically you were sent back for a second try. If you didn't cut It then you were mustered out.

When I went thru in '88 the DI's were only allowed to lay hands on you for 3 reasons. Your life in danger. Their life in danger from you. And if you uniform was out of spec. Lots and lots of headgear were out of spec.

We learned land nav in BCT. But were given no practical training in it. It was basically look at this map and figure out the distance from point a to point b and which direction you'd head to get there.

Our grenade course was focused more on precision than distance. Although when we threw the live grenades, distance was key. I got tackled at the live grenade section. I was told to stand and get ready to throw, but the guy next to me decided to throw his before me. His landed about 3 feet on the other side of the wall of my bunker/foxhole. I've heard a lot of explosions, that was the first one I ever felt that close. That guy pushed asphalt, dirt, rock, and sand every chance they got to drop him. The first day they made him go thru the chow line in the front, lean and locked position. He had to carry his tray on his back.