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How much height needed for skinning machine ? #6140966
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Plan on building a skinning machine in my pole barn for next season. From the floor to top of the joist is about 9'. Minus the 10 to 12 inches that the clamps mount to the floor will this be enough clearance for eastern coyotes ? -Thanks

Re: How much height needed for skinning machine ? [Re: kyron4] #6141012
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Is your hoist going to be mounted in the ceiling or are you going to mount a pulley in the ceiling? 8' you may have to re-attach the hide once.


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Re: How much height needed for skinning machine ? [Re: kyron4] #6141042
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Mine is mounted about 10 feet and it is not tall enough for yotes, I am going to mount a pulley next year and relocate the wench to gain more....

Re: How much height needed for skinning machine ? [Re: kyron4] #6141092
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I got mine mounted at 9'. I have to readjust once, but it still beats pulling with your back!


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Re: How much height needed for skinning machine ? [Re: kyron4] #6141131
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I have mine at 10ft. Barely enough. Get yourself a RTS Speed Gambrel, it will gain you quite a bit. Plus it works great.

Re: How much height needed for skinning machine ? [Re: kyron4] #6141203
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Can you go horizontal? Love mine. Used beavs 2x12 idea. Plenty of length.

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Re: How much height needed for skinning machine ? [Re: kyron4] #6141248
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I used Beavs idea too. I put a sheet of vinyl on it as it lives outside on saw horses mostly.
Hope to upgrade this year. Plan to set up so it can also drag heavy things into the building.

Someone on here was talking about a DC hoist that would run through a battery charger that plugs into AC. That, would open a lot more options for me.

Think it was fishguts showed a pic of a hori set up on a countertop.





Re: How much height needed for skinning machine ? [Re: Wright Brothers] #6141368
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Originally Posted By: Wright Brothers
I used Beavs idea too. I put a sheet of vinyl on it as it lives outside on saw horses mostly.
Hope to upgrade this year. Plan to set up so it can also drag heavy things into the building.

Someone on here was talking about a DC hoist that would run through a battery charger that plugs into AC. That, would open a lot more options for me.

Think it was fishguts showed a pic of a hori set up on a countertop.
Ya, I use a 12 volt atv winch and use a battery charger to power it. Don't have to mess with a battery that way. I picked up the winch on Harbor Freight for under 80 bucks, 2500 lb.

Re: How much height needed for skinning machine ? [Re: kyron4] #6141433
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Horizontal is the way to go if you can

Re: How much height needed for skinning machine ? [Re: kyron4] #6141464
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11', 12' to be on the safe side.... If you're going to pull them in one pull without rehanging the coyote or finishing the pull by hand with my style of skinners. I have made many custom machines for guys with lower clearance. Roller style, trap doors, horizontal, angled etc...

Re: How much height needed for skinning machine ? [Re: kyron4] #6141591
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Go 12’
Mine is at 10’-6” and its enough for coon but too short for our coyotes
Should have made my roof a few feet taller


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Re: How much height needed for skinning machine ? [Re: kyron4] #6141658
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You only need about 7 foot of head room to skin a coyote If you build your skinner right. And I'm not talking about re adjusting the hide a few times.

You need to build your base and attach the winch to the base. Then adapt a length of shafting to the winch shaft. You will need to get rid of the cable drum to do this. The other end of the shaft needs to be held In pillow block. Now you drill a hole In the center of the shaft so you can attach a length of belting. Old seat belts work good for this application. On the other end of the seat belt you attach a cable slip noose. Use the male end of the belt to do this.
Now when you open your coyote you just slip the loop around the tail and all the skirt fur and tighten up the noose.


Now when your skinning your winch shaft Is turning and wrapping the hide around the shaft and the carcass Is staying In place. 7' max Is all you need and you could probably get by with 6'.
To remove the hide just reverse your winch and off It comes.

It works like a dream
I'm sure ADC will have them on the market for next trapping season.

I hope this helps you guys out.

Just a after thought.

You will need to do some bending to finish off the head. So If you hang the coyote by the hocks you will gain some carcass height.

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Re: How much height needed for skinning machine ? [Re: kyron4] #6141844
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The BOTTOM of my winch is at 8 ft 8 inches and it won't pull the heads on the coyotes. Another reason not to catch them.
It's plenty for coon, however.

I have ADCs base. You could cut your base down if you're really gung ho on the coyotes, but I like the height, as is, for coon.

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Re: How much height needed for skinning machine ? [Re: The Beav] #6141934
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
You only need about 7 foot of head room to skin a coyote If you build your skinner right. And I'm not talking about re adjusting the hide a few times.

You need to build your base and attach the winch to the base. Then adapt a length of shafting to the winch shaft. You will need to get rid of the cable drum to do this. The other end of the shaft needs to be held In pillow block. Now you drill a hole In the center of the shaft so you can attach a length of belting. Old seat belts work good for this application. On the other end of the seat belt you attach a cable slip noose. Use the male end of the belt to do this.
Now when you open your coyote you just slip the loop around the tail and all the skirt fur and tighten up the noose.


Now when your skinning your winch shaft Is turning and wrapping the hide around the shaft and the carcass Is staying In place. 7' max Is all you need and you could probably get by with 6'.
To remove the hide just reverse your winch and off It comes.

It works like a dream
I'm sure ADC will have them on the market for next trapping season.

I hope this helps you guys out.

Just a after thought.

You will need to do some bending to finish off the head. So If you hang the coyote by the hocks you will gain some carcass height.


I like this idea a lot and may have to talk to Jayme a bit further about this. Thanks for the ideas Beav.

Re: How much height needed for skinning machine ? [Re: The Beav] #6141938
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
You only need about 7 foot of head room to skin a coyote If you build your skinner right. And I'm not talking about re adjusting the hide a few times.

You need to build your base and attach the winch to the base. Then adapt a length of shafting to the winch shaft. You will need to get rid of the cable drum to do this. The other end of the shaft needs to be held In pillow block. Now you drill a hole In the center of the shaft so you can attach a length of belting. Old seat belts work good for this application. On the other end of the seat belt you attach a cable slip noose. Use the male end of the belt to do this.
Now when you open your coyote you just slip the loop around the tail and all the skirt fur and tighten up the noose.


Now when your skinning your winch shaft Is turning and wrapping the hide around the shaft and the carcass Is staying In place. 7' max Is all you need and you could probably get by with 6'.
To remove the hide just reverse your winch and off It comes.

It works like a dream
I'm sure ADC will have them on the market for next trapping season.

I hope this helps you guys out.

Just a after thought.

You will need to do some bending to finish off the head. So If you hang the coyote by the hocks you will gain some carcass height.




That Awesome! Any Pictures????

Re: How much height needed for skinning machine ? [Re: kyron4] #6142137
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Yeah agree any pics.

Re: How much height needed for skinning machine ? [Re: The Beav] #6142200
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
You only need about 7 foot of head room to skin a coyote If you build your skinner right. And I'm not talking about re adjusting the hide a few times.

You need to build your base and attach the winch to the base. Then adapt a length of shafting to the winch shaft. You will need to get rid of the cable drum to do this. The other end of the shaft needs to be held In pillow block. Now you drill a hole In the center of the shaft so you can attach a length of belting. Old seat belts work good for this application. On the other end of the seat belt you attach a cable slip noose. Use the male end of the belt to do this.
Now when you open your coyote you just slip the loop around the tail and all the skirt fur and tighten up the noose.


Now when your skinning your winch shaft Is turning and wrapping the hide around the shaft and the carcass Is staying In place. 7' max Is all you need and you could probably get by with 6'.
To remove the hide just reverse your winch and off It comes.

It works like a dream
I'm sure ADC will have them on the market for next trapping season.

I hope this helps you guys out.

Just a after thought.

You will need to do some bending to finish off the head. So If you hang the coyote by the hocks you will gain some carcass height.


Lol beav where you in a cattle kill plant , that is exactly how the hide pullers work there , except a bigger drum the a coon or coyote skinner would take


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Re: How much height needed for skinning machine ? [Re: The Beav] #6142329
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Originally Posted By: The Beav
I'm sure ADC will have them on the market for next trapping season.


Actually I built and sold my first roller type skinning machine over 10 years ago. They are tougher and more expensive to build and slower by far to use vs. the standard type skinners I designed and build, but some guys really like them so I have built a few. I aim to please. smile

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Okay Beav you got us thinking on your process
Need pictures! Not that smart and Hugh Heffner was my idol.


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Re: How much height needed for skinning machine ? [Re: kyron4] #6142357
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Should be cheaper to build. No 12' mast no base with vise grips welded to It.
If you can buy the winch without all the added garbage It would save even more money.


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