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Re: Flat set - an easier method of coyote trapping?
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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01/15/18 06:08 PM
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strike2x
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I caught 4 fox on one flat set this year and none in the dirt hole within 10 feet. Other years I have caught in the dirt hole and not the flat set. My problem with flat sets is simply if you disturb the dirt to bed a trap but there is no hole to go along with the fresh dirt smell wouldn't that confuse the target animal? Maybe I am over thinking that part and that is why I always put in a hole...... Sure, in a week the fresh dirt smell may go away, who wants to wait a week before a set is good? These are just my thoughts and personal oppinion. Maybe I lack confidence as was said earlier. My season is coming bro an end here at least on land and I didn't get to play as much as it had planned. Next year I hope I get more time....I hope I make more time I should say. Please explain a little more in depth your reference to the smell of fresh dirt. The reason I am inquiring is my dirt holes are disturbances however the dirt that should have come out of the hole is not among the disturbance because I punch a hole vs digging a hole. So you are punching, pounding, your trap bed? I dig a trap bed, bed trap in dirt and blend. What are you covering trap with? We may have 2 different ideas of flat sets.....I guess everyone may have different ideas of the same thing. I am not brand new at this but new enough to listen and learn.
Wish I had more time to trap....
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Re: Flat set - an easier method of coyote trapping?
[Re: Golf ball]
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01/15/18 07:03 PM
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I know guys that claim 60% of they’er coyote are caught in flat sets, I must be doing something wrong ! Me too..
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Re: Flat set - an easier method of coyote trapping?
[Re: Muddy Boots]
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01/15/18 07:21 PM
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I'm on same page as LAW DOG..but I still make a few dirt holes and it seems like a lot of my remakes are dirt holes I thought the added scent of said catch would add more appeal but I'm gonna start trying the walk through..
You gonna learn taday.....
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Re: Flat set - an easier method of coyote trapping?
[Re: Law Dog]
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01/15/18 07:22 PM
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Have not used a true dirt hole for years my main set is to find a backing I like (corn stalk/rock/ clump of dirt/ post then make a stake hole at the base of it then set it and blend it. The walk through sets come on the remakes, the location should tell you what the sets that will work the best rather then forcing a lesser choice out of habit. \ X2
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Re: Flat set - an easier method of coyote trapping?
[Re: Muddy Boots]
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01/15/18 07:30 PM
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I not sure if you would call this a flat set or a punch set but make what I call a flat set punching in three holes in a triangle about 16"apart with trap blended in the middle. Is it a flat set ? Whatever you want to call it,it works good for me .not the only set I make but I do use it a lot.
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Re: Flat set - an easier method of coyote trapping?
[Re: Muddy Boots]
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01/15/18 07:34 PM
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strike2x
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A hole is exactly what it is no matter the size. It is explained in the boo the dirt hole and it's variations. If you have a hole then it is a variation of a dirt hole set. A flat set has no hole.
Wish I had more time to trap....
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Re: Flat set - an easier method of coyote trapping?
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01/15/18 09:08 PM
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I’ve always considered the urine post , the pipe set and the compass set all variables of the flat set . X2 Or as I call them "sub-categories"
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Re: Flat set - an easier method of coyote trapping?
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01/15/18 09:11 PM
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I know guys that claim 60% of they’er coyote are caught in flat sets, I must be doing something wrong ! I know a guy that catches over 90% of his coyotes in flat sets,last year that would have been over 140 coyotes in flat sets. I catch at least 60% in flat sets. I have just as much confidence in a flat set as a dirt hole.
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Re: Flat set - an easier method of coyote trapping?
[Re: strike2x]
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01/15/18 09:18 PM
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A hole is exactly what it is no matter the size. It is explained in the boo the dirt hole and it's variations. If you have a hole then it is a variation of a dirt hole set. A flat set has no hole. I disagree. If I poke a hole in the ground under a clump of grass with a screwdriver to put lure in it is not a dirt hole set. If the hole isn’t visible it is a flat set.
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Re: Flat set - an easier method of coyote trapping?
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01/15/18 09:24 PM
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I’ve always considered the urine post , the pipe set and the compass set all variables of the flat set . Same here, I've always thought the urine post is an older name for a flat set.
Eh...wot?
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Re: Flat set - an easier method of coyote trapping?
[Re: Lugnut]
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01/15/18 09:29 PM
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I’ve always considered the urine post , the pipe set and the compass set all variables of the flat set . Same here, I've always thought the urine post is an older name for a flat set. That is something i don't do often is the urine post set........I need to work on that one, I only put one in if I see if there is a natural projection and a trail off the road then back on the road, still not much luck
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Re: Flat set - an easier method of coyote trapping?
[Re: Muddy Boots]
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01/15/18 09:29 PM
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Has anyone heard the saying: dirt holes are for fox and flats sets are for coyotes...lol....I don't think that's entirely true I've never heard it but it's been my experience. I'm a fox trapper and run about 95% dirt holes, 5% flat sets. I only catch a handful of coyote each season but half of those are in the flat sets. Could be the way I crowd the hole with the trap on my dirt holes which are made strictly for fox, no 10-12" set back.
Eh...wot?
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