Re: 65 this year and??
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I went through this a few years back. I don't remember all the details but do remember getting enough literature in the mail to have killed a tree!!
The one thing that stuck in my mind is that you have a window of opportunity to sign up for Medicare and all preexisting conditions are waived. I think the window is 7 months - 3 before your birth month, your birth Monet and 3 months after.
If you have preexisting conditions and don't sign up within that 7 months, then premiums can be more. If you sign up within those 7 months, you are covered at the lowest rate, for as long as you live, no matter how sick you are at the beginning.
That is the one thing that stuck in my mind. Other than that you have to consider
- supplemental plans, if so, which one.
- prescription drug coverage
- private plans
- all sorts of stuff.
If you currently have health insurance, I would fit down with a representative from that company and have them explain the options and the pluses and minuses. They will (or at least for me they did) condense down all the info you are getting in the mail and help you make the best decision.
Good Luck.
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Re: 65 this year and??
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01/06/18 04:37 PM
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Thanks but I never asked for a grade on my knowledge LOL I can see from your original post you are terribly confused. C-
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Re: 65 this year and??
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Well Hal it seems that if your paying for your Medicare out of your SS that would be pretty well entwined in my world, don't know about yours.
As to be virtually compelled to sign up at 65, that does not seem to be true either according to several medical insurance agents lately, some saying if your covered by a program when your age is up that all your giving up is the pre-existing time period and can sign up later on. That when your insurance is up or do for a redo, you can then sign up for the MC if you desire, although it may be at a different cost, knowing now that all medical programs are different even with age it makes good sense to ask those who have been through it how they are doing with it !
Now maybe if you could answer that without adding your flair for talking down to everyone who ask's for a reply on a thread you might be actually worth a squat !
Sorry if my opinions or replies offend you, they are not meant to !
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Re: 65 this year and??
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01/06/18 04:59 PM
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Well Hal it seems that if your paying for your Medicare out of your SS that would be pretty well entwined in my world, don't know about yours. Are you asking for advice or giving it? Now maybe if you could answer that without adding your flair for talking down to everyone who ask's for a reply on a thread you might be actually worth a squat ! You have an odd way of asking for assistance.
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Re: 65 this year and??
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Bob, thats my case I'm taking the SS at full retirement age, without retiring and there will be no penalty on the SS, I've got that worked down good. Can still work full time only will have the state taxes taken out of the SS and the MC fee if I choose it instead of the current program I'm paying for. This is the main question, is one compelled to sign up as Hal advised or can one still just keep going through different medical programs and not worry about MC being a need, like it seems your program your doing ? It seems that you never signed up for MC as Hal has suggested ?
What I have yet to see is if you pass up the 65 window on MC, are you out just for the pre-existing window, yes is what I've come to feel now with most answers, or are you out with selections when and if you decide to give up or change your current medical insurance your using.
What seems to be the consensus is you still can get the MC but it will cost more because you never signed up at 65. If you decide to not re-up our current plan
Sorry if my opinions or replies offend you, they are not meant to !
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Re: 65 this year and??
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01/06/18 05:40 PM
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Bob, thats my case I'm taking the SS at full retirement age, without retiring and there will be no penalty on the SS, I've got that worked down good. So you've got that figured out. Can still work full time only will have the state taxes taken out of the SS and the MC fee Nope. You can't work and dodge the SS and MC on your income. There are special circumstances. Miz was a teacher and covered under a State Techers Retirement plan which exempted her from SS tax. if I choose it instead of the current program I'm paying for. Your current program must be certified as an acceptable substitute. Again, with Miz the STRS health insurance qualifies as a substitute for Medicare part B and D. Not any old program will do. Does your current program qualify? This is the main question, is one compelled to sign up as Hal advised or can one still just keep going through different medical programs and not worry about MC being a need, like it seems your program your doing ? Again you must determine if your current health insurance qualifies. It is not automatic. It seems that you never signed up for MC as Hal has suggested ? What I have yet to see is if you pass up the 65 window on MC, are you out just for the pre-existing window?
What seems to be the consensus is you still can get the MC but it will cost more because you never signed up at 65. If you decide to not re-up our current plan Medicare is not mandatory. That's why I said "virtually". You never need to sign up. HOWEVER, if you choose to sigh up after 65, you will pay double premiums for all the years you missed. For example say you sign up at age 67. You will pay double premiums for two years as a "catch up" for setting out two years. You're welcome.
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Re: 65 this year and??
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01/06/18 06:07 PM
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I haven't read all the comments but will say wissmiss is on the right track.
There's many variables. I worked in a health issuance medicare program. Yes you have 3 months before 3 months after and the birth month of your 65th birthday to either take medicare part A or part a and part b. You can get part b at another time if you currently have insurance and still working. One thing is you do not want to ever go without rx coverage or you will be penalized.
Get a medicare advantage (part c - combines parts a,b and d) with rx. They have much better rates (premium, copays, deductible and coinsurance)+ they often add other services like eye exam, gym etc...
A medicare supplement plan is very expensive. You've seen the commercials for AARP.
Your best bet is to talk with your health insurance and see if they have a medicare plan with your company. Some carriers will some won't. If you have tricare tricare will always pay last. I have seen many who worked and just took part a until they retired then got part b and got on or medicare advantage plan. If you suspect you have kidney issues make the choice now or you won't be able to switch again. Sane is transplant stuff. All other conditions won't prevent you from switching plans down the road
Yes medicare is taken out of the ss check most choose for it to be taken out automatically. At the very least Take part a right away or get penalized forever. Don't go without rx coverage or you will get penalized forever too. You can appeal the penalties but that's a headache.
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Re: 65 this year and??
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Nope. You can't work and dodge the SS and MC on your income. There are special circumstances. Miz was a teacher and covered under a State Techers Retirement plan which exempted her from SS tax. Cognizant your lacking Hal, this statement is in regards to the SS coming in not the continued working income I will still be working with. If one retires earlier than their full Retirement age they are penalized with a lower SS check, that will not happen with my coming in SS due to waiting till my FRA Your current program must be certified as an acceptable substitute. Again, with Miz the STRS health insurance qualifies as a substitute for Medicare part B and D. Not any old program will do. Does your current program qualify? Thank you for your first good answer, It seems per your description I would have to check with the MC people for certification about my current program, makes sense although I have yet to see that any where on their site Medicare is not mandatory. That's why I said "virtually". You never need to sign up. HOWEVER, if you choose to sigh up after 65, you will pay double premiums for all the years you missed. For example say you sign up at age 67. You will pay double premiums for two years as a "catch up" for setting out two years. Actually you said compelled, words really, no worries I get it. What is really the question I guess now that you have really sorted it all out, is that one has to use the MC program to fish for insurance plans if they cannot find a certified MC cleared one. Thanks for your time Hal you can do it really if you try once and a while, just wish you would start without replying by drop kicking a guy first !
Sorry if my opinions or replies offend you, they are not meant to !
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Re: 65 this year and??
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01/06/18 06:12 PM
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Thanks Adam thats very clear, appreciate it, yes I worry about my kidneys due to stone history ! You're welcome. I would've kept going but was getting tired of writing on my phone. if you're worried get on a good plan while you can.
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