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Re: another story about those lovable dogs [Re: Ridge Runner1960] #6099521
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According to previous post this loveable breed mute or not were responsible for around 2/3s of the fatal dog attacks. Anyone that doesn't see a problem with the general breed is suffering from a bad case of ostrich syndrome. Had a neighbor had two of these loveable dogs years ago right up to the time he got busted for drying pot in his trailer. I always carried a clip full of semi jacketed worm pills for them when they were off their chain. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst is a good rule to live by.

Re: another story about those lovable dogs [Re: tjm] #6099522
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Originally Posted By: tjm
Probably misidentified crossbreeds. Real PIT BULLS with a pedigree wouldn't do that.


OK what were pit bulls bred to do? I'm ignorant so i'm asking. I always heard it was to fight and bite down and not let go. Just like a beagle is bred to hunt.
Still asking why anyone wants anything besides a bassett?

Re: another story about those lovable dogs [Re: Ridge Runner1960] #6099525
12/25/17 04:25 PM
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Re: another story about those lovable dogs [Re: Ridge Runner1960] #6099529
12/25/17 04:27 PM
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A little googling and you will find that dogs (all breeds) kill about 28 people a year cows kill about 20 other mammals horses,deer,pigs kill about 58 combined. When you throw in car collision with animals deer become the most lethal by far, over 130. Source
Washington Post. CDC wonder files. Guess that's why some people shoot Bambi on sight LOL. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!


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Re: another story about those lovable dogs [Re: Ridge Runner1960] #6099699
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Last comment from me on this I have no use for the breed. BUT exactly what does the NAME "PIT" BULL mean. I presume it means a fighting "PIT" .....
just saying ...............

now justify the breed !!!!!!!

Re: another story about those lovable dogs [Re: cmcf] #6099748
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Originally Posted By: cmcf
A little googling and you will find that dogs (all breeds) kill about 28 people a year cows kill about 20 other mammals horses,deer,pigs kill about 58 combined. When you throw in car collision with animals deer become the most lethal by far, over 130. Source
Washington Post. CDC wonder files. Guess that's why some people shoot Bambi on sight LOL. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!


That is one of the stupidest pro-pit arguments I've ever heard.


Eh...wot?

Re: another story about those lovable dogs [Re: jbyrd63] #6099762
12/25/17 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted By: jbyrd63


OK what were pit bulls bred to do? I'm ignorant so i'm asking.


They were the butchers' breed. They were bred to catch. A 55lb dog is capable of catching and bring to a stand still a 1200lb bull.

Same technique as a cinch on a horse's nose only the dog chases, puts the hold on until you call for a release.

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Re: another story about those lovable dogs [Re: Ridge Runner1960] #6099784
12/25/17 07:37 PM
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Is that what we're doing??? Lol Google images?


Hey how about this...Google image "cruel trapper" and ask yourself if that's representative...

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Re: another story about those lovable dogs [Re: Tweed] #6099786
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Originally Posted By: Tweed
Is that what we're doing??? Lol Google images?


Hey how about this...Google image "cruel trapper" and ask yourself if that's representative...


Would be the exception more than the rule unlike the bull dog discussion.


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Re: another story about those lovable dogs [Re: Tweed] #6099792
12/25/17 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: Tweed
Is that what we're doing??? Lol Google images?


Hey how about this...Google image "cruel trapper" and ask yourself if that's representative...

These are actual pictures of what pit bulls have actually done to people.Not for the faint of heart.Not made up pictures like the antis


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Re: another story about those lovable dogs [Re: Ridge Runner1960] #6099806
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Not a pro pit argument at all lugnut. Just using the CDCs statistics to show how statistics can show both sides of the debate.
Were you shocked when a yellow lab mauled the heck out of Cesar Millan(the dog wisperer on tv) It was the most violent attack of his career(his words). It took several weeks to recover from the mauling that was prompted by Cesar reaching for the food bowl. If I remember correctly he said the dog would have reacted the same way if it was a child getting in the dogs space.
Is there anyone in this discussion that thinks Big Daddy, or whatever he calls his big male "pit bull" would attack a person or cat for that matter. Video evidence would say no. I'm not an expert dog person although I have had hundreds of compliments on my dogs manners. Like grandad used to say,"you have to be smarter than the dog to teach them anything. Some people can't even raise their children to be good citizens and you blame genetics when their dogs go wrong. Maybe we should call for mandatory sterilization for "some people" "OH WAIT!" Some people on this forum have already done just that.

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Re: another story about those lovable dogs [Re: Ridge Runner1960] #6099816
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The yellow lab should be shot as well.Any dog that bites someone should be killed.


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Re: another story about those lovable dogs [Re: Ridge Runner1960] #6099829
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Genetics is the reason I can't have a grizzly as a pet. I could get a cub and raise him to be a lamb but it is a gamble he will always act as a lamb because of genetics.

The argument that pit bulls are friendly because more people are injured in deer collisions is awesome!


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Re: another story about those lovable dogs [Re: Ridge Runner1960] #6099923
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The argument that genetics is the reason you can't have a grizzly is awesome! The grizzly is an apex WILD PREDATOR! If you can show where grizzly are kept as pets and "Working Bears" by several hundred thousand people your argument might have some validity, until then you are just sinking to the ridiculous. And again I reiterate. I didn't say pit bulls are friendly because deer kill more people. Just using the same method to show statically you are more likely to be killed by a deer than a dog of any breed. You don't trust the breed of dog or any breed that looks like them. I get it. I am not a fan myself, not for the reasons expressed in this thread, but because I don't consider them to be of above average intelligence. Most of the ones I have known where goofy just like most of the Labradors I've been around.


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Re: another story about those lovable dogs [Re: Ridge Runner1960] #6099938
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I wouldn't mind if they just attacked the owner.

Re: another story about those lovable dogs [Re: Ridge Runner1960] #6099977
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Why do they make safeties for 330's?


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Re: another story about those lovable dogs [Re: Ridge Runner1960] #6099978
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My oldest daughter had one, or at least she called it a pit bull. I don't know one from the other as far as being a pit bull, staffordshire, or any other bull dog. It looked like a pit bull to me, but it seemed really big for the breed. It was around 90 lbs at 1 year old, and was wound tight. He was the friendliest dog to be around, and was very playful, then one day it bit my grandson. It happened once, and he was gone. We told her before the biting started, not to trust him, because he just made us feel uneasy.
that was the only pit bull I have been around, so I cannot give any judgement on the breed. I'll just stick with my rhidgeback and dane.


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Re: another story about those lovable dogs [Re: cmcf] #6099985
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Originally Posted By: cmcf
The only dog that seriously worried me, was a professionally trained Arizona Department Of Public Safty K9.
This dog literally tore his way out of a chain link pen to get at me while I was delivering propane. I was able to talk him down from his murderous rage after several tense minutes. Sergeant Charry of the AZDPS demanded to know how I had managed to get on his porch with the dog setting beside me.
Said I had ruined six thousand dollars worth of training. I told him it was either make friends or kill the dog. Care to guess the breed of dog?
Labrador retriever.

The only thing you proved with this story is...... Someone tried to take for the most part, a non-aggressive breed and make it agressive. You supposedly ruined $6000 in training to make it aggressive and it reverted back to its original demeanor by you talking to it. Now let's take an aggressive breed, the "Pit" breed and try to train it to be a non-aggressive dog. Why do the Pit Breed owners think it is inconceivable that their breed can not revert back to their original demeanor? Try and talk an attacking Pit Breed down as it's getting ready to do what it's natural instinct and breeding was meant to do.


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Re: another story about those lovable dogs [Re: TDHP] #6099996
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Originally Posted By: TDHP
Why do they make safeties for 330's?

Exactly and also the reason you secure your service weapon when you are at home. Extra insurance that something bad doesn't happen. Remember that when your kids are alone with the dogs.

Re: another story about those lovable dogs [Re: TDHP] #6100013
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Originally Posted By: TDHP
Why do they make safeties for 330's?


So they don't "bite" the owner and only "bite" the intended target after the safeties are removed.

Do you keep the safeties (muzzles) on your pits?


Eh...wot?

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