Re: Coyote shooters
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02/05/16 09:20 PM
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Allan Minear
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Since the wind is always just a gentle breeze around here I really lik my .6mm Remington or the .25-06 I'm pulling everyone's leg about the wind, our forecast is for wind speeds of 30-50 mph with gusts up to 70 mph. Stay Safe out there. Allan
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Re: Coyote shooters
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02/05/16 09:29 PM
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Anyone know if you can buy ..204 brass and what it goes for?
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Re: Coyote shooters
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02/05/16 10:08 PM
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bur
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Hey John, I think calling one in and then blowing it up with a hand grenade would be more fitting for you ... those pale Montana coyotes aren't all that anyways.
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Re: Coyote shooters
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02/05/16 10:37 PM
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Yes you can buy .204 brass somewhere in the 25-30 dollar range per 100.
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Re: Coyote shooters
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02/06/16 12:17 AM
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Allan Minear
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It's really easy John buy one of each of the above mentioned rifles besides you have kids right and they're going to need a rifle sooner than later anyway. Allan
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Re: Coyote shooters
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02/06/16 12:24 AM
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I know a lot of 6MM and 25 cal,s even some 22 cal, load VLD bullets are capable of making 500-700 yard shots, but in the real world of calling, there aint THAT many people that can realistically make those 600 plus yard shots.....sure the right gun and right man can shot 2-6" groups at that yardage, off a bence w/ sandbagged gun or even prone w/ a bipod, but of most the time calling your sitting on your hauches, with a longer pr of shooting sticks, with more wobble, and it AINT that easy....remember a broadside coyote chest is about 8" max, so figure out there 6-700, you 4" low, or 4" high usually is a miss.......and unless your DARN good at estimating range, or always got a rangefinder on hand, your just about out of the ballgame before ya start.....under or over estimate range 30-50 yards your bullet drop alone just takes ya outta the ballgame.....Im sure there a FEW guys, and a few on here, that can consistanly do it, with the right gun, and prolly a rangefinder in hand, unless youve been doing a LOT of long range shooting over a number of years, and one of them things if you dont stay in practice constantly you get a little rusty.......I kinda think MOST of time, those super heavy VLD bullets, arent going to be the best fur bullet over the entire range spectrum, and many times requires a custom barrel w/ a special twist.......Im gonna say for 90% of the shooters out there, would more served shooting a 22 c/f cal, with 55 gr bullet weight max, and better yet 50 grains, and stay fur friendly on the bulk of 100-300 yard shots, and still have good chances at the occasional 400-500 yards........lets face not EVERYONE is a marine corps sniper capable shooter....even if ya THINK you are......and even some of them guys, im betting based on a 8" chest cav coyote, might have a tough time on some 600 yard coyotes compared to center mass of a human, where ya got about 24" from the crotch to the head (12" high or low)....Im not trying to take anything away from anyone, as some can pull off such shots, when everything is lined out right....
Back when I used to call/shoot alot, got me a 400 yard view right straight in front of me, pretty much got it all planned hes gonna come right straight in from my desired shooting position, got the gun on the sticks wiggle rock solid into the dirt, been shooting alot and know the gun and the load.....and they come in 90 degrees to where i think, move the bipod, now my sticks are wiggling,and I got one leg of bipod on a dam rock that that moves too much, scopes at a cant, etc ,etc....and I miss the durn thing at a 125 yard, LOL
I went thru the phase where I shot enough when shooting p'dogs and bench shooting all the time (20 years ago kinda pre-rangefinder days), that I had the gun to shoot 500 yards, and got thinking Im GOOD enough to shoot coyotes consistanly at 500 yards......but my back couldnt hack dragging in the shooting bench to every stand....LOL
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Re: Coyote shooters
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02/06/16 12:33 AM
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Hey John, I think calling one in and then blowing it up with a hand grenade would be more fitting for you ... those pale Montana coyotes aren't all that anyways. Will, I think you're onto something. I can sell finger warmers with all the little pieces. Lol.
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Re: Coyote shooters
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02/06/16 12:39 AM
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Allan Minear
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I agree with you Rich, I for one have missed coyotes this winter that I normally wouldn't miss. I'm planning on many a trip to the range with more than one of my rifles. John watching them coyotes run isn't fun on days like that. Allan
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Re: Coyote shooters
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02/06/16 12:46 AM
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IMO once you get past 350-400 yards the .22s and smaller just don't have the B.C. to buck the wind the way the 6mm and larger do. The possible exception being something with a fast twist that is set up to shoot the 69+ grain .22 caliber bullets at a healthy starting velocity. My old tang safety ruger .22-250 may get a new 1:7 barrel for this exact thing.
Right now I shoot a .223 and .22-250 and my kids have a couple youth .243s with short barrels that have performed well on coyotes. I am seriously considering something along the lines of a 6mm-06, 6mm Ackley, or .243 Ackley for those coyotes that hang up at 350+. I picked up a .25-06 a couple days ago to play with but it will most likely turn into a donor action/stock for the 6-06. I hunt with my kids and wife mostly these days so they will be shooting anything inside 250 or so with ARs, short barreled .243 or the .22-250.
My daughter shot this young coyote at 62 yards square in the chest while it was looking at her. It had no significant exits with a 100 grain power point out of her 16.5" barreled .243. I was expecting a mess. Solid chest hits Judd, keep my beer cold. Lol.
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