Dog Proofs vs cages.
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I am getting ready for a coon job, and from what I understand the woman has cage shied the coons. I was going to throw out 4 dog proofs, but wonder what you guys think about them for adc.
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Re: Dog Proofs vs cages.
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09/11/14 06:23 PM
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Throw Back, I'm really not the right guy for this question but that never stopped me before. I don't own a dog proof and never have,
although they are perfectly legal everywhere in our state. My big thing is to do my job well, but keep a low profile. I don't feel
that dog proofs fit that description. ( And, of course, now that I said that, you know I'm going to need them ) Anyway, we have so
many different style cage traps that we've been able to take even the smartest raccoon simply by switching cages.
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Re: Dog Proofs vs cages.
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You know, I have to call the department. After reading all 187 unclear pages of the regulations they dont appear to be. The little old lady at Fish and Wildlife said she thought they would be considered a coni under 6 inches, when they are really classified as a foothold. No one knows the trapping laws in this state and its becomming a headache. Too bad I just bought 4 traps I cant use.
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Re: Dog Proofs vs cages.
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What are some things you guys do to lure in those cage shy coons? Look up some of the podcasts that Jonesie did on the subject.
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Re: Dog Proofs vs cages.
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Throw Back, the last trap-shy coon I caught by running a handful of lured mini-marshmallows through a Comstock.
Caution: Do not use the large beaver sized Comstocks. You'll spend all day releasing kids.
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Re: Dog Proofs vs cages.
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Throw Back, the last trap-shy coon I caught by running a handful of lured mini-marshmallows through a Comstock.
Caution: Do not use the large beaver sized Comstocks. You'll spend all day releasing kids. I got mallows in voo doo coon lure now
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Re: Dog Proofs vs cages.
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09/13/14 07:36 PM
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I don't. I can see some tender heart/soft head getting their butt in a sling over a trapped critter in one of bone crushing, foot chopping off traps and trying to pet or release the poor dear. I explained to her the difference between the steel jaw and dog proof, and put my finger in one to show her. My finger hurts tho.
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Re: Dog Proofs vs cages.
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Now I am going to tell you that what I use is the best in the world if we are at a show, but here I am going to say, get the critter thinking on the baits or lures and wanting them outside of the trap and they will forget about the trap that is the ticket. By the way 80% will go right in. 10 % will make you cuss a little and the last 10% will make me cuss a lot and throw things. This is just my thoughts could be wrong. Wendall Reeves told me about a large coon that was cage shy. The coon work the trap circling-even climbing on the 12x16x28 cage he was using, but would not go in. He could tell the coons focus was on the bait inside. He placed a double doored trap between the house and the trap (with no bait or lure) the coon had been circling. He caught the coon that night. I have caught beaver many a time in traps whether they are conibears, snares, or cage traps with the bait placed in the center with the traps place to where the beaver is caught circling and not paying attention. It is the same principle. The exception is that with a cage the animal acts as a decoy for the next animal as long as the cages are set properly. Example: Set three large-tall double door traps in the shape of a triangle right out in the water at a level of 4-8". Place a fake caster mound in the middle of the triangle formed by the cages. Use no bait in the cages. You catch one, you,ll probably catch another. If the traps are tall the beaver won,t climb over, but circle and go in.
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Re: Dog Proofs vs cages.
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Now I am going to tell you that what I use is the best in the world if we are at a show, but here I am going to say, get the critter thinking on the baits or lures and wanting them outside of the trap and they will forget about the trap that is the ticket. By the way 80% will go right in. 10 % will make you cuss a little and the last 10% will make me cuss a lot and throw things. This is just my thoughts could be wrong. Wendall Reeves told me about a large coon that was cage shy. The coon work the trap circling-even climbing on the 12x16x28 cage he was using, but would not go in. He could tell the coons focus was on the bait inside. He placed a double doored trap between the house and the trap (with no bait or lure) the coon had been circling. He caught the coon that night. I have caught beaver many a time in traps whether they are conibears, snares, or cage traps with the bait placed in the center with the traps place to where the beaver is caught circling and not paying attention. It is the same principle. The exception is that with a cage the animal acts as a decoy for the next animal as long as the cages are set properly. Example: Set three large-tall double door traps in the shape of a triangle right out in the water at a level of 4-8". Place a fake caster mound in the middle of the triangle formed by the cages. Use no bait in the cages. You catch one, you,ll probably catch another. If the traps are tall the beaver won,t climb over, but circle and go in. I will try this. I am going to have to buy a double door, and to think I thought I might make money on this job :S
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