Re: hazing and releasing?
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06/16/14 04:28 PM
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I do the hazing and release only on cats. Have yet to catch the same cat at a location. In Ohio we are not allowed to relocate caught animals and I make it a point to inform homeowners of this at the start of every job. Personally I don't think its a good idea. Had a heck of a time catching a coon this weekend because he acted like he had been caught before. He came to the back of the cages and reached in to steal the bait. I had forgot my anchoring stakes and it had rolled a couple of the cages over to get to the bait. After resetting the area with cages with smaller wire mesh and anchoring stakes I was able to pick up the coon. At least I think I got the guilty coon. If not I'm sure the homeowner will let me know
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Re: hazing and releasing?
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06/16/14 05:19 PM
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In some states they have the sense to not allow re-location. It mess's up the bio diversity, and researchers will get skewed results. The transportee's will get dumped in another animals range, they will have NO idea where to find food, water and shelter. They may not have any immunity to local diseases, and spread diseases from their old area, like Rabies. You're dumping an educated animal in somebody else's area.
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Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
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Re: hazing and releasing?
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06/16/14 06:28 PM
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Paul Winkelmann
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Big Bob, this is my rebuttal. ( Actually, my buttal is fine, but my wife complains about hers all the time )
Unless, of course, you live in Wisconsin with no raccoon rabies and lots of great relocation.
It's still survival of the fittest and even the fittest end up as oil stains on the roads and highways.
Apparently that disease thing is a myth. So far, in 2014, we have more animals than ever before.
We only dump stupid animals like opossums. I think I've caught the same one 27 times now. ( He's a money maker )
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Re: hazing and releasing?
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06/16/14 06:35 PM
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BigBob
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LOL, been there, done that, and got the T-shirt. Actually there's a serious problem in my area with Rabies, and other air born Virus's, and I'm amazed that Mo just "Discourages" re-location of animals. (but banned transporting firewood).
Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.
Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.
Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
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Re: hazing and releasing?
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06/16/14 06:43 PM
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Rabies is huge issue here at present and relocation is not allowed except on public hunting ground with permission of the area manager(who will say h*ll no!).
Never argue with a fool - they will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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Re: hazing and releasing?
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06/16/14 08:09 PM
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HD_Wildlife
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Ahhh, Paul, can always count on you for the land of magical fairy dust version of wildlife populations that are completely immune to disease.... What is also humorous is that the "numbers" of healthy wildlife you mention, you usually post to complain that the state has it's head in it's rear when it comes to the numbers... At least some things are a constant... lol! On a side note, when you think about making "hazing" within a captured situation, remember that to some hazing would be construed as breaking animal welfare laws.... One man's hazing is tonights 5 o'clock news and law enforcement situation... Just sayin...
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Re: hazing and releasing?
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06/16/14 09:33 PM
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Paul Winkelmann
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Justin, you need to re-read my posts. The only numbers I get are from the state. I don't disbelieve them at all. What I don't believe is that if you have 1200 wolves and take away 500 wolves, that you will arrive at your desired number of 350 wolves.
I apologize about the numbers of healthy wildlife. I only meant the wildlife that we deal with in southeastern Wisconsin. Where I normally catch 3 or 4 raccoon, this year, I'm catching 10.
The deer slaughter on the highway down here is worse than I have ever seen it. There is a car killed raccoon every mile. Our catches of every species I can think of is up this year. ( And after our winter, that's hard to believe )
I'm certainly not implying that the northern part of the state was a plethora of wildlife like we do down here. We are just taking advantage of our good fortune until the wolves move down here and spoil everything like they've done up north.
P.S. From all reports, we would still be able to make some money spraying for mosquitoes up north. I understand that they are having one of the finest crops ever!
And I'm really sorry that our raccoons don't have any rabies. Maybe the mange and distemper will make up for the lack of rabies!
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Re: hazing and releasing?
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06/17/14 08:30 PM
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Ahhh, Paul, can always count on you for the land of magical fairy dust version of wildlife populations that are completely immune to disease.... What is also humorous is that the "numbers" of healthy wildlife you mention, you usually post to complain that the state has it's head in it's rear when it comes to the numbers... At least some things are a constant... lol! On a side note, when you think about making "hazing" within a captured situation, remember that to some hazing would be construed as breaking animal welfare laws.... One man's hazing is tonights 5 o'clock news and law enforcement situation... Just sayin... true. Guess will avoid the hazing
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Re: hazing and releasing?
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06/18/14 06:30 AM
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mousie
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I do the hazing and release only on cats. In Ohio we are not allowed to relocate caught animals only on some animals. there are some that can be released.
never make someone a priority when they make you an option !
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Re: hazing and releasing?
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06/21/14 05:23 AM
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SgtMaj Bob
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Two years ago, I had two coons invading my garden. I set a cage trap & caught one each day. When caught, I banged on the cage with a stick, shook the cage vigorously and then released them from the dock of my pond. They swam across the pond as fast as they could go, ran into the woods and never came back to my garden. I'm guessing the treatment worked.
S/F,
Bob
If someone has done better than you, you settled for less but, it's not their fault.
Semper Fi,
Bob
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Re: hazing and releasing?
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06/21/14 11:28 AM
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My hazing method for skunks is to kick the cage. Then I poke them with a sick a few times. Lastly I slap them across the face and then let them go. It works great. If you can stand the smell.
Semper Fi
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