It's Not The Wildlife Management, It's The Math.
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05/22/14 06:45 PM
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Paul Winkelmann
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I am not going to quote you exact numbers, just rounded off ones, but you will get the picture, I'm sure.
Wisconsin has agreed that the viable wolf population in the state should be between 300 and 350 wolves.
Right now, the census of wolves in Wisconsin is between 650 and 700 miserable canines.
This number will double after the breeding and whelping season, so as of 60 minutes ago, we had 1300 to 1400 wolves.
So in order to reduce the population to 325 wolves, we will be allowed to hunt and trap about 160 wolves this year.
Here's the math. 650x2=1300 -160=1140 wolves. They actually printed this in the papers. I guess I'm the only one that caught it.
On the plus side, I've never heard of a farmer being prosecuted for protecting his herd against wolves.
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Re: It's Not The Wildlife Management, It's The Math.
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DUH!!! That new math is over MY head.
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Re: It's Not The Wildlife Management, It's The Math.
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05/23/14 12:20 PM
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In my experience with state game and fish agencies,USFWS and ESA Programs,the population numbers are always manipulated to their advantage,depending on exactly what point they are trying to make. Usually,they will inflate the numbers,when touting the success of their ESA Programs and will deflate the numbers,when it comes to managing ESA wildlife populations or delisting said species from the ESA list. Most times,I find the true population of ESA species are double their estimates for management programs,a safety net,of sorts,to cover their behinds,in case their management programs take a turn for the worst,for some unforeseen circumstance. Since these are WDNR and USFWS numbers,it comes as no surprise to me or should it to any of you,that are Wisconsin residents and are familiar with their ongoing questionable management policies of all the wild furbearer species,in that state. At least,they are consistent,consistently at odds with the majority of Wisconsin trappers,on most furbearer management issues,wolves being a prime example,as it will continue to be,in the future. Good Luck
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Re: It's Not The Wildlife Management, It's The Math.
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05/23/14 12:37 PM
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Eric Arnold
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Paul,
Don't you know with the new math that getting the correct answer isn't important, it's the steps you take to get there that matter.
Eric Arnold Publishing Editor W.C.T. Magazine Editor The Fur Taker Magazine
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Re: It's Not The Wildlife Management, It's The Math.
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06/05/14 07:46 AM
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Paul,
Don't worry any... They will likely hire wildlife services to collar a few wolves and maybe shoot 5 in two years. 1140 - 2.5 = 1137.5. And it will only cost that states taxpayers several hundred thousand dollars.... Each.
Good luck,
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Re: It's Not The Wildlife Management, It's The Math.
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Just looked through the Wisconsin wolf management plan, available on the link provided above. USDA ws was on the wolf advisory committee and in several pages are noted as the agency allowed to euthanize wolves (private land owners are " not allowed"). Average wolf management costs, around $100000 in the late 90s. Expected cost increase of 10% a year; by now that's $250000. I bet it's more!
Perhaps a few minor details have changed but...
"Our nation's health is dependent on local industry and commerce."
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