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Coyote/Fox Trap Dilema #2059
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Hello all, new guy here. Great site. was wondering if anybody had experiance with these traps? Im re-tooling my canine traps from straight fox to fox/coyote. Right now I have 8doz. victor 1.5 coils with no mods. I ordered 3 sterling 500 traps but they seem way to much or am I wrong? Yesterday I order 6 of the victor pro 4x4 w/ offset forged jaws, but havnt gotten them yet. Was just wondering what everyone uses in this situation. Merry x-mas!!!! Mike

Re: Coyote/Fox Trap Dilema [Re: Mike367] #2082
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the victor 1.75 should be a fine trap for fox/ coyote combo trap

I like the 1.75 4x4 , I had the jaws laminated and bubble tip on the jaws and added a better baseplate with center swivel

the Sterling 500 will be a good coyote trap but maybe much for fox


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Re: Coyote/Fox Trap Dilema [Re: Heavyduty] #3661
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Thanks Heavyduty. We have mostly fox with some coyotes, the percentage is about 80/20. I really think the 4x4 victors will fit the bill nicely. Mike

Re: Coyote/Fox Trap Dilema [Re: Mike367] #3690
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I use sleepy creek 1 3/4 offset pretty much straight out of the box. They are strong 2 coil traps.


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Re: Coyote/Fox Trap Dilema [Re: Oldtoolsniper] #3718
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The 1.75s, laminated, base plated, and with the other usual modifications will serve you well for both fox and coyote. It is as close to a universal canid trap as we have in the lower 48.
IMO, 4 coiling is too much, but then again, my pard and I trap the live market, and we do not have the hard cold, and snow/ice that y'all do in N.Y. If I used these traps in my area, for my purposes, I would probably change out the springs to # 2 music wire, and I would open-up a small offset in them. I know several Georgia trappers running the 1.75s, as described, and they are happy with them.
Hope you find some Christmas presents when you run your line today.
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Re: Coyote/Fox Trap Dilema [Re: 45/70] #4035
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Thanks guys, Im gonna try 4 coils only for the break through speed and not holding power. Also will be using these traps for snow if we ever get any. I have got 3 sterling 500 coils, boy they are nice traps. Mike

Re: Coyote/Fox Trap Dilema [Re: Mike367] #4039
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I use montana #3 for yotes and I like the power and speed. They will hold a fox too.LOL
Mine a four coiled and offset, they are a bit hard on fox though.
The 13/4 will be a rightous fox trap but my yotes here a rather large. I have yet to catch one this year under 40 pounds.


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Re: Coyote/Fox Trap Dilema [Re: nelacres] #4069
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i think the four coil is a bit much on fox, i had a half dozen #3 victor 4 coil set for yotes and cats. i could not keep the fox out of them. i had several ring outs and just the shoe left in the trap to let me know what i had. those that did not ring out were not far from it. but mind you these were not modified traps. straight stock.

Re: Coyote/Fox Trap Dilema [Re: nelacres] #4079
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I have a jaw spread restriction here in ny also, Our yotes are large here to. I wish I could just keep using my 1.5 victors. How about the new bridger 1.5 coils with the 5in. jaw spread? They look like a tough trap. I got a year to decide. Mike

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bridger is a good trap. personally i do not like to use anything smaller than a #2 for coyotes. but that is my personal preferance. alot of guys use smaller modified traps for yotes, but i would definatley want them modified. for sure if you have 40 and fifty pound coyotes.

Re: Coyote/Fox Trap Dilema [Re: shoalcreektrappr] #4105
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I think the new MB-550-RC may fit your bill of needs, not sure about the jaw spread restriction though.

Re: Coyote/Fox Trap Dilema [Re: Mike367] #4109
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I had some of the same dilema....I was mainly trapping bobcats and a few coyotes but wanted to catch more fox with a few extra sets...I was using Monty #3s. I bought some 1.75s and 2s (basic no mods) for fox but started catching yotes in the fox sets and did lose a couple. So I am back at strictly #3s for all three and just have been using offsets without a whole lot of problems.


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Re: Coyote/Fox Trap Dilema [Re: txcatman] #4186
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Ny jaw spread restriction is 5 3/4 inches measured by the inside jaw spread. The mb 550rc looks to be a good trap I will have to wait until they become available to check them out. Will they have wire levers? Mike

Re: Coyote/Fox Trap Dilema [Re: Mike367] #4193
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Pretty much what 45/70 said, and consider the Bridger 1.65's w/ mods.
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Hey Andy, looks like a nice trap. Any clue as to when they will be for sale? Mike

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No idea when they will be ready. I'm excited to get some myself, I took the picture off the post from Paul down a little further. There are about 4 different pictures of the trap if you look there. We have alot of fox/yote combo areas here, and I feel it will be the perfect trap for those areas.

Re: Coyote/Fox Trap Dilema [Re: Mike367] #4282
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Mike:

You might want to take a look at the trap that Rag57078, makes, he is in the chat almost every night. You can see them here.

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Re: Coyote/Fox Trap Dilema [Re: Spade] #4288
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Thanks spade I will check them out. Mike

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