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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3149932
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I think the USDA should continue to help agriculture. Put that only makes up five percent of thier budget. NWCO should be doing the other 95%.


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3150119
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How does WS help ALL in the trapping business fur or otherwise? Look at the R&D work done under WS through the years, the scientific data that aids trappers of all walks of life. Also look at the surveys done on who Joe Public thinks has the most knowledge and expertise on wildlife in general, right or wrong in your Bias mind wildlife 2 it i sits with govt agencies be it fed or state.

WS and state game depts that are pro fur harvest/ pro control help all trappers in the public realm against the anti crowd, those are the facts!

Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3150568
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I don't believe I have ever said anything negative about the efforts of state agencies. After all mammals are the responsibility of the states, not the feds.


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3151000
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wildlife2 the laws enacted in the early part of the 1900's do in fact make it a legal obligation for the fed govt to control some of the damage as well if asked by the states and ag producers to do so.

Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3152762
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Some free advertising for USDA wildlife services.
No mention of private NWCO's. Does NH have a state org?

http://m.sentinelsource.com/mobile/featu...840421779d.html


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3152766
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Obligation or ability?


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3152825
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Quote:
Some free advertising for USDA wildlife services.
No mention of private NWCO's. Does NH have a state org?


I've never heard of a state wco organization in NH. We do have a very small trapper's association though.

This article is certainly an ad by and for WS. I don't believe there are any feral hogs in NH. After more than thirty years of roaming the NH woods, I've seen neither sign nor animal. I've never met anyone who has either.

If you ever wandered the NH countryside in winter you would understand why I think feral hogs are just a fantasy here.

Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3153610
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OBLIGATION IF ASKED FOR and some if not, but co op with many states Game and Fish on many projects.

Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3153677
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So not a true obligation?


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3154317
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federal employees being paid to blog, what a good use of our tax dollars.
I'm glad we are paying our competitors to advertise against us.

http://blogs.usda.gov/2012/05/10/birdstrikes-at-homestead-airforce-base-down-90-thanks-to-usda/


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3155309
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Here you go wildlife 2 read up on the LAWS on our Books. Yes obligation by definition of the law.

Animal Damage Control Act
Animal Damage Control Act (7 USC 426-426c) -- The Act of March 2, 1931, (46 Stat. 1468) provided broad authority for investigation, demonstrations and control of mammalian predators, rodents and birds.

Public Law 99-19, approved December 19, 1985, (99 Stat 1185) transferred administration of the Act from the Secretary of the Interior to the Secretary of Agriculture.

Pub. L. 102-190(Div. A, title III, Sec. 348, Dec. 5, 1991, 105 Stat. 1348) and P.L. 102-237 (Title X, Sec. 1013(d), 105 Stat. 1901, Dec. 13, 1991) added provisions directing the Secretaries of Defense and Agriculture, respectively, to take actions to prevent the introduction of brown tree snakes into other areas of the U.S. from Guam.

P.L. 106-387, effective October 28, 2000, 114 Stat, 1549, amended section 426 of the Act to give broad authority to the Secretary of Agriculture in carrying a wildlife services program with respect to injurious species.

Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3155728
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Where does it give them authority to compete against private companies?


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3155989
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I hate to agree with Weeds, but in my own opinion, there are people out there who cant affoard us. What are they supposed to do, live with an animal or bunch of bats in there house? I do some free work close by, but everyone isn't a softy like me, and I can't be everywhere. Im not talking about crackheads, or drunks. Just good people who are having a rough time, and now this... I think its a good thing that the feds can actualy help someone out instead of just talking about it.

Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3156432
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http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20120508/NEWS/120509811?p=1&tc=pg

Tman member jtrapper was involved in this one.
I know for a fact that ttown is served by at least four different WCO operations.


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Mike Flick] #3156436
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Originally Posted By: Mike Flick
I hate to agree with Weeds, but in my own opinion, there are people out there who cant affoard us. What are they supposed to do, live with an animal or bunch of bats in there house? I do some free work close by, but everyone isn't a softy like me, and I can't be everywhere. Im not talking about crackheads, or drunks. Just good people who are having a rough time, and now this... I think its a good thing that the feds can actualy help someone out instead of just talking about it.


Mike, we as an industry can address that. I was recently part of a three company collaberation on a rat trapping and exclusion project for a non profit.


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: warrior] #3156456
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USDA only works for "free" or at a vary low price when they know there are NWCOs trying to get the work.


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3156463
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Where does it give them authority to compete against private companies?

The very essence of the law gives them that authority in many areas.


The Secretary of Agriculture may conduct a program of wildlife services with respect to injurious animal species and take any action the Secretary considers necessary in conducting the program. The Secretary shall administer the program in a manner consistent with all of the wildlife services authorities.

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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3156465
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Mike your a level headed person for sure! Not evryone can afford private contracts and people pay the fed govt taxes as well, what does our fed govt do with these tax dollars? Also for many the cost versus effect is more benefical having the govt ran program over a private paid to hire deal, NOT ALL but plenty of it does work better for various reasons.

Also states have the authority to ask for or deny any help from the govt as well.

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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3156470
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Oh gee, I guess the busiest airport in the world and a multimillion dollar internationlly known resort qualify as low income then and deserve the free services they have been getting.


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Re: USDA Wildlife Services ITN [Re: Wildlife2] #3156511
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Airports I understand them being security twitchey, but not resorts. So where do we draw the line and co-exist before we start getting huffy about the situation?

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