Wax dirt
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06/24/07 07:44 PM
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Fire Fly Guy
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Who's making it? And how much do you make?
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Re: Wax dirt
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06/24/07 07:52 PM
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CharlesKS
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never tried it, but i like salt.
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Re: Wax dirt
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06/24/07 07:58 PM
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brianroberts
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I've use waxed dirt, salt, glyocol, hulls, you name it nothing compares to waxed dirt for areas where you get rain/snow and freeze/thaw. Its a godsend! I have made it on top of a Propane cooker in a pot, by adding the dirt to the pot and then the powdered wax and mixed it by hand with brown jersey golves until it was mixed. As far as the rate of wax to dirt goes , about 3/4 pound to the gallon of dirt. I now use a cement mixer and I heat the dirt till hot then add melted candle wax and let it mix while still heating,. try to keep your dirt under 170 degrees and use a wax that has a low melt point 130 degrees or so. The stuff is bullet proof, doesn't rust your traps, doesn't smell like anything but dirt and looks like dirt. Show me something thats better and I'll start using it.. Until then I'll use waxed dirt at a price of about 35 cents a set .....B....
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Re: Wax dirt
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06/24/07 08:07 PM
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Bryan Daigle
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Will start making next seasons ,08 waxed loom here shortly.Same amount as last year.
Last edited by Bryan Daigle; 06/24/07 08:15 PM.
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Re: Wax dirt
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06/24/07 08:54 PM
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Interseting comments, I guess alot has to do with were you live. I live outside Buffalo NY. You can have 4 feet of snow, it could be 50 the next day and than 20 below that night! I have tried everything but wax dirt, so I am going to make some up this year and give it a try.
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Re: Wax dirt
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06/24/07 09:14 PM
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brianroberts
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Almost impossible to bed a trap in waxed dirt! all caught with waxed dirt, no probleblem bedding with waxed dirt, it only takes a small amount under the trap, pound out a bed, get the trap solid, than sprinkle a small amount down and rebed the trap. Maybe you should try some, Andy. Before you talk about how hard it is to use.....B....
Last edited by BrianRoberts; 06/24/07 09:15 PM.
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Re: Wax dirt
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06/25/07 09:35 PM
06/25/07 09:35 PM
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Andy, if you are having trouble bedding in waxed dirt, it was not made correctly. I have been making waxed dirt for several years now. Use it from day 1. I make it in a box with heat lamps and can make some all season if I start to run outb and have a supply of dry dirt..
Last edited by Bob Samuelson; 06/25/07 09:38 PM. Reason: Additional info.
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Re: Wax dirt
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06/30/07 09:33 PM
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brianroberts
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Just to answer a few comments made about waxed dirt, I have tried( for many years ) with some sucess dry dirt and salt, only problem is after a catch or any moisture the trap rust really bad and I always dealt with refusels, sometimes more than others, but had plenty. I tried hulls, the were ok if you top dressed and got him to step in the right place on the first step, if not I had plenty of dug up traps, worked better in a step down type set where heavy guiding could be used. Peat moss still got wet with our rains and than froze, plus I had plenty of refusels with it also, it also seemed to work better on a step down type set. Dry dirt works fine for me and I have used it in the early season with good results. I've got it from barns, under bridges, under root wads and out of corn fields in the middle of the summer and stored it, all worked fine. Also tried variuos types of liquid antifreeze with similar results, wet pattern, refusels, etc. My experiance with waxed dirt is as follows, it can rain and than freeze and at the worst I have a very thin crust on top. It doesn't blow away anymore than any other dry dirt. It doesn't seem to make the K9's shy away( I have quite a few 1st night catches using it. As far as cost goes, I use a pound to the gallon of dirt, I get about 2-3 sets out of a gallon depending on how liberal I am with the dirt. Its cheap compared to checking frozen out of commision or rusted traps. If I ever find something better I'll go with it. As far as the salt goes, 3 years ago in southwest Kansas we got some pretty good moisture and freezing and salted everthing pretty good to keep the freeze away. This was sand country, once it started to thaw again the tracks told the story, lots of pattern refusals, really cut are catch fast. I had been using waxed dirt here for several years and just didn't think that anything was needed out there. When we saw the forcast we bought some salt and worked all the sets over(around 130 of them) it was a real eye opener.....B.....
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