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#1919544 - 03/27/10 06:24 AM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: ]
west river rogue Offline
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Im livng proof!! Also star apple bark boiled works well. I didnt spend 6 months in asia for nothing.
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#1927012 - 03/31/10 09:09 AM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: west river rogue]
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fasting sugar upon rising 78-before bed i ate a salad with sayote and cucumbers with lite ranch dressing
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#1927627 - 03/31/10 04:39 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: west river rogue]
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nice.

That bitter melon stuff sure is difficult to prepare in an edible manner...

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#1927793 - 03/31/10 06:06 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: ]
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LOL, too bad raw? Hup,,i thought u said it wasnt bad when u ate it raw? Try it in dishes with soy,,or the recipe jenny gave you. Even with scrambled eggs it isnt too bad. Takes getting used to it.(if thats possible)
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#1929111 - 04/01/10 11:20 AM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: west river rogue]
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A lady at work made me some for breakfast.
It was the bitter melon, onion and eggs with rice.


the thought made me kinda throw up in my mouth a little....

But it is the best way to eat it YET...and actually good.

She said she stir fryed the melon and onion with water, to soften the melon up.

then added the eggs...

Brought the sticky rice in another container.... It was real good.

On another note. I went to my dietician yesterday.

We talked about a few things, and I asked her about the bitter melon.
She agreed it has a hypoglycemic effect. But she said that it is unpredicatable every time you eat it. I might lower BS too much, or not at all, or in different proportions each time.

she also said the supplements are not the best, because there is no quality controls, and most all is made in China. That the amounts of bitter melon in the extracts and supplements varies alot.

She did say also, that it has been known to severly lower BS for some.and that, if you are experienceing HIGH BS, that you could eat the bitter melon to bring it down.

What works for some might not work for all, and we each need to find what works for us......

She also said that since my A1C has been 6.0 and 5.9 the last 2 times, that if the next one is below 6.0 to try with out the 500 mg of Metformin for 3 months and see what happens.
If I can control it on my own, then GOODBYE metformin...

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#1929411 - 04/01/10 03:16 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: ]
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good deal,,i just do what my body tells me now(not counting chinese food twice this week) masarap!!!
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#1943162 - 04/09/10 06:15 AM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: Jon A]
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was eating too much chinese foods gained 10 pounds in last month so i went back to ampalaya the last 2 days and lost 4 pounds again
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#1945053 - 04/10/10 06:21 AM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: west river rogue]
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lost 1.5 again yesterday only 1 bite ampalaya -from 171.5 to 166.6 this morn in 3 days,,seems to work for me.
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#1948466 - 04/12/10 12:54 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: west river rogue]
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starvation is never a good way to do anything.

sounds like alot of it may be water weight,
when starving yourself like that, the body canibalises muscle, not fat.

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#1949067 - 04/12/10 07:59 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: ]
west river rogue Offline
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Im not starving hup im pigging out,,but im still eating a little ampalaya and losing. I ate chicken breast,,toast,,salad,,grapefruit,,bananas,,-2 chicken sandwiches for lunch. And i been drinking coffee with vanila and hazelnut creme 2-3 times a day still losing and good sugar level. I just reduced meds another 750 mg 3 days ago.
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#1949204 - 04/12/10 08:39 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: west river rogue]
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great job. I'm gonna have to find some of fresh ampalaya! The pill form works for me but is sporatic in its effects. So the fresh stuff is next to see if I can get more consistent results

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#1949760 - 04/13/10 07:06 AM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: Jon A]
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yup,,i dont like the pills
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#1959652 - 04/19/10 05:27 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: Jon A]
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Originally Posted By: Jon A
great job. I'm gonna have to find some of fresh ampalaya! The pill form works for me but is sporatic in its effects. So the fresh stuff is next to see if I can get more consistent results


that was the rpoblem which my dietician relayed to me. that was the problem with it. She said that it could also drop BS to really low levels.
research is being done, but the problem so far is the consitency in which it performs or doesn't, also the size of the effect it may have as well.

Not saying to give up on it, just relaying the info presented to me.
that said, the store here is out, and hasen't had any for a week or two....

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#2109324 - 08/18/10 03:10 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: ]
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Guys, I am type 2 (Jon- are you type one?).
The trick for me was wt loss and proper diet (low in sugar and no excessive carbs).
I have lost 65 lbs in 6 yrs since I last drove a truck and my blood sugars stay below 110 (spiked when I get up) as long as I dont drink alcohol.
(Im on the wagon too now- I ought to live forever LOL)
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#2111761 - 08/20/10 08:33 AM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: Leftlane]
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All that means is you're about to get hit by a bus Leftlane. grin
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#2111842 - 08/20/10 09:49 AM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: Tsarevna]
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Ha funny T.
Shouldn't you be outside practicing up on your martial arts!!

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#2222719 - 11/04/10 03:18 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: Anonymous]
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yo ,,i lost 53 in 2 months on an ampalaya diet.
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#2277341 - 12/03/10 01:23 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: Anonymous]
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3 days back in asia my sugar levels dropped too low,,stopped the metformin and now its an ideal 106 with my wifes cooking here and the lifestyle. Im so healthy here always.
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#2903782 - 12/23/11 12:09 AM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: west river rogue]
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Registered: 12/07/10
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Loc: Southeast, AK
Iam 31 and type one. Diagnosed 1.5 yrs ago. Found that diet and exercise are best for me. Trapping and being active help. I am 185 and 6 foot,no histoery. Is there such thing as a wonder drug.?? I am always looking for advice. Vm inseattle has the best care peeriod imo. Tomatoes seem to do me good. Coffee raises my BS quixckly as does the complex carbs. Good read though.

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#2903947 - 12/23/11 06:31 AM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: Anonymous]
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What about the cinnamon capsules .I have heard that they help . Have a Friend that took them with Type 1 and it helped control here levels
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