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#1908859 - 03/21/10 10:05 PM ................Diabetes education and Nutrition
Hupurest
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This thread can be used for us to ask each other questions, to seek support, share knowledge etc....

I am excited Paul let us try this out....
lets make it work......

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#1909021 - 03/21/10 11:12 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: ]
Jon A Offline
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Registered: 04/05/09
Loc: IN
west river rogue had a good thread about bitter melon (ampalya). I am trying some of the extract pills and I can say it does help to control the spikes. Looking to get some actual bitter melon and see how that works.

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#1909033 - 03/21/10 11:18 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: Jon A]
Hupurest
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Awesome. I am going to try to find some as well. I have a phillipino friend who said it would be nuts to eat it raw...

Where did you find the extract?

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#1909129 - 03/22/10 04:36 AM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: Bud Guidry]
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guys the extract really doesnt work well for me. You NEVER eat bitter melon raw,,u misunderstood me Hup. I eat Sayote Raw,it taste like a raw turnip! The only way I eat ampalaya raw(and its not raw really)is to nuke it in microwave and dry it. Many filipinos just cook it as any vegetable,,fried etc. You can order the seeds and grow it same as cukes. If u cant find it ill help. Hup i dont know if u could grow it in ak or not unless u have a hothouse.
Also guys,,listen to me closely on this. I ate nothing but ampalaya 3 times a day for about a month to start,,thats where my immediate 30 pound weight drop came from,,then of course having a beautiful filipina asawa(wife)and daily morning exercise at 3 am or so doesnt hurt either.
Also cucumber peels are very good for diabetes.-steve
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#1909150 - 03/22/10 05:30 AM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: west river rogue]
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this morning my level was 96 on waking,,been eating alot of ice cream and chocolate lately along with hazlenut creamer and vanilla icing-not too bad huh?
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#1909471 - 03/22/10 11:15 AM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: west river rogue]
Hupurest
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WRR,
that makes more sense. The girl was like NO WAY YOU ARE eating it raw....
Cook it like a veggie she said..

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#1909475 - 03/22/10 11:18 AM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: Bud Guidry]
Hupurest
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Originally Posted By: Bud Guidry
. now i can't drink any and it kills me to see the jug and fight myself away from it



Well, I have the same thing when i see some hot young things walkin around..... But since i am married I don't do it....

I have found that moderation is the hard part....
say chili cheese fritos... I love them.... and when I buy them, I try to make em last all week as a lunch snack. but they usually last 2 days....

So, since I know I have a hard time moderating the fritos, I don't buy them. When I don't have them at home to eat, I CAN'T eat them...

I guess it comes down to loving milk, or loving waking up every day... In the big picture..

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#1909545 - 03/22/10 11:58 AM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: ]
Hupurest
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here is some more on the milk. how it is treated as an exchange.

Milk is a carb. 1 cup of milk is 15 grams of carbs.
So depending on how much you drink, it will raise BS.
"Milk raises BS fairly fast, especially non-fat or low fat. Stick to 1 cup of milk at a time and limit it to 3 cups per day".
You should drink the milk w/ MEALS (not pastries..lol) to slow down absorption too.

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#1911220 - 03/23/10 02:10 AM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: ]
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Registered: 01/25/10
Loc: Valdez, Alaska
This will sound real crazy to everyone but a local in my town has came up with a cure for diabetes. One of my bosses followed his instructions and no longer a diabetic. He had to injecect himself often and now he no longer takes insulin. This guy has helped a few people and they to are no longer diabetics. If u want to know more pm me.

Stay away from any products with corn, high oleic oil, crystalline, any syrup, and diet sodas.
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#1911885 - 03/23/10 01:35 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: trapperandy]
Hupurest
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Speaking of Diet soda.....

Went out to eat last night. I normally get unsweetend ice tea.

But I ordered a diet coke... I had 2 of them, ate only my portion of food.

But 2.5 hrs later my BS was 185. It has never been that high 2 hrs after meals...ever...

I came to the conclusion that the waitress gave me 1 or two Regular colas.....
I had trouble sleeping, felt like crap, and slept bad....

So from now on, only drinking unsweetend tea or water.....Don't want that to happen again...

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#1911898 - 03/23/10 01:42 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: ]
Jon A Offline
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Registered: 04/05/09
Loc: IN
Originally Posted By: Hupurest
Awesome. I am going to try to find some as well. I have a phillipino friend who said it would be nuts to eat it raw...

Where did you find the extract?


Hup I got it from GNC

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#1911903 - 03/23/10 01:46 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: Jon A]
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Also oatmeal helps slow the spikes as well and fills you up. Some gluten protein in the oats if I can remember from class.

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#1912781 - 03/23/10 08:49 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: Bud Guidry]
Jon A Offline
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Registered: 04/05/09
Loc: IN
Bud I know how ya feel before I was diagnosed I would quart after quart and never be sated. I walked under my own power into the ER with a 700 BS. Soon as they got it under control that next day I wasn't thirsty anymore. Its the body trying to get the sugar outta the body.

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#1915656 - 03/25/10 11:45 AM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: Jon A]
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you know i never did experience the super thirsty spells or peeing alot.
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#1916231 - 03/25/10 04:45 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: west river rogue]
Jon A Offline
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Registered: 04/05/09
Loc: IN
WRR you are lucky. It is a horrible feeling to see the gallons of water go down and still be thirsty.

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#1916445 - 03/25/10 06:16 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: Jon A]
Hupurest
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oh man, I was up peeing 4 times a night......it sucked...

not anymore though..

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#1916472 - 03/25/10 06:27 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: ]
Jon A Offline
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Registered: 04/05/09
Loc: IN
No it is amazing what happens once things get figured out!

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#1917077 - 03/25/10 09:51 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: Jon A]
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Registered: 12/25/06
Loc: Philippines,,ohio
i drink alot of pineapple juice and coconut water to keep my kidneys flushed out.
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#1919388 - 03/26/10 11:32 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: west river rogue]
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In Panama bitter melon is known as Balsamino. The pods are smaller and bright orange when ripe with very sweet red seeds, but only the leaves of the plant are brewed in hot water to create a tea to treat malaria and diabetes. The leaves are allowed to steep in hot water before being strained thoroughly so that only the remaining liquid is used for the tea.

Folk wisdom has it that bitter melon helps to prevent or counteract type-II diabetes. A recent scientific study at the Jawaharlal Institute of Postgraduate Medical Education and Research, India, has proved that bitter melon increases insulin sensitivity.[5] Also, in 2007, the Philippine Department of Health issued a circular stating that bitter melon, as a scientifically validated herbal medicinal plant, can lower elevated blood sugar levels. The study revealed that a 100 milligram per kilo dose per day is comparable to 2.5 milligrams of the anti-diabetes drug Glibenclamide taken twice per day.[1] Bitter melon is sold in the Philippines as a food supplement and marketed under the trade name Charantia. Charantia capsules and tea are being exported to the United States, Canada, Europe, Mexico, Japan, Korea, and parts of the Middle East.[1]


Bitter melon transformed into capsule form and sold as a food supplement.Bitter Melon contains four very promising bioactive compounds. These compounds activate a protein called AMPK, which is well known for regulating fuel metabolism and enabling glucose uptake, processes which are impaired in diabetics. "We can now understand at a molecular level why bitter melon works as a treatment for diabetes," said David James, director of the diabetes and obesity program at the Garvan Institute of Medical Research in Sydney. "By isolating the compounds we believe to be therapeutic, we can investigate how they work together in our cells."[2][3][4][5] [6] [7]

Bitter melon contains a lectin that has insulin-like activity. The insulin-like bioactivity of this lectin is due to its linking together 2 insulin receptors. This lectin lowers blood glucose concentrations by acting on peripheral tissues and, similar to insulin's effects in the brain, suppressing appetite. This lectin is likely a major contributor to the hypoglycemic effect that develops after eating bitter melon and why it may be a way of managing adult-onset diabetes. Lectin binding is non-protein specific, and this is likely why bitter melon has been credited with immunostimulatory activity - by linking receptors that modulate the immune system, thereby stimulating said receptors.

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#1919389 - 03/26/10 11:33 PM Re: ................Diabetes education and Nutrition [Re: ]
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