Re: Setting 330 by hand
[Re: i1deagU]
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02/01/10 12:31 PM
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trapperman89
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If I ever have to set them without a setter, I usually stand them on the ground the way you would have it set in a trail, trench, whatever, hold on the the top of the jaws, and step on the springs pushing them to the ground and putting the safty catch on when done. Then I do the same for the other spring.
"Courage is being scared to death but saddling up anyway"-John Wayne
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Re: Setting 330 by hand
[Re: i1deagU]
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02/01/10 12:38 PM
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fishermann222
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Carrying a setter on the line is unneeded bulk and weight, carry a chunk of rope with a loop on one end, simple, light, and something I have with me anyway.
I survived the Tman crash of '06
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Re: Setting 330 by hand
[Re: i1deagU]
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02/01/10 12:41 PM
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run a rope thru both eyes of a spring then back again. stand on rope close to spring eye. pull up on rope where it comes out of other eye. then go buy or make a set of setters and keep that rope within reach at all times
you CAN teach an old dog new tricks. you just CANT change his mind about the ones he already knows
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Re: Setting 330 by hand
[Re: pondbird]
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02/01/10 12:44 PM
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Dead Coyote
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Watch Rick Hemseth do it! It's set in under 5 seconds and sometimes 3 seconds. Only in contest's I have seen this done.
Live everyday like it is the last day of your life! MJPPTA 1%
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Re: Setting 330 by hand
[Re: Dead Coyote]
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02/01/10 12:51 PM
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I can set some of the older ones by hand by standing on it and pulling up on the spring to compress it. As far as the new ones go, I guess I'm just a lil too light in the britches to set em by hand!
Come November, critters will die!!!
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Re: Setting 330 by hand
[Re: i1deagU]
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02/01/10 01:14 PM
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I just stand the trap upright, bottom jaws on something firm, hold in place with a foot and push down on the spring with both hands (the eye of the spring), hold in place and flip safety into position.
...not normal practice, just when I forget my setting tongs now and again.
"When you have to shoot, shoot...don't talk!"
-- Tuco Benedicto Pacífico Juan María Ramírez (The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly)
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Re: Setting 330 by hand
[Re: i1deagU]
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02/01/10 01:56 PM
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I would not use rope. Use chain, cable or at least some heavy wire.
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Re: Setting 330 by hand
[Re: i1deagU]
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02/01/10 01:59 PM
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Bruce T
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Hold the trap upright with your left hand under the bottom side of the spring.Push down on the top side of the spring up by the frame untill you can grab both sides with one hand.Then flip the saftey latch over.
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Re: Setting 330 by hand
[Re: coongrease]
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02/01/10 02:58 PM
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Pretty much what Coongrease is trying to say, but let me go a little further: Trapsetters will just slow you down and they are down right inconvenient on the line. Technique is everything when it comes to hand setting. Strength is also part of it, but I would guess if you're between the ages of 17 to 68 you have plenty enough strength.
Position the trap between your legs. With your right hand clasp the lower spring eyehole. With your left hand push the upper spring eyehole down all the way until it is close enough to the opposing S.E.H. so that the safety dog can swing over and catch. I use the thumbpalm area of my right hand to wrap over the upper springhole for a second which frees up my left hand so that it can grab the safety dog and pull it over. Repeat other side.
The trick is to push the spring eyehole down so that you have leverage on your side. It takes me just 5 to 10 seconds for each side and the trap has released an animal and been reset in under 30 seconds.
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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Re: Setting 330 by hand
[Re: Pittu]
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02/01/10 05:14 PM
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use a rope and, as an extra help, use the rope to carry your catch.
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Re: Setting 330 by hand
[Re: grod]
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02/01/10 05:28 PM
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you gotta have big hands. I can get the springs started and compress them and have them set in decent time. The guy I trap with says I am retarded and playing with fire, but I learned conibear trapping from my dad and thats the way he does it, so if the old man can do it then I can too
09/10 season totals 13 yotes 72 coon 25 oppossums 4 skunks 8 rats 0 fingers
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Re: Setting 330 by hand
[Re: mittentrapper01]
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02/01/10 05:48 PM
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I use rope most of the time and that works well for me...However, I did pick up one trick that works pretty good when I have forgotten, misplaced my rope, or when it is just not convenient to use a rope...Keep in mind when I am using 330s I am usually trapping beaver so beaver chewed stumps are usually around...
On a fresh beaver chewed stump, place the spring eye ring of your 330, if you can picture that...The ring goes over the point, and then you can easily push down the spring with all your weight, if needed and simply hook the safety...The spring stays nicely secured on the point of the beaver chewing without kicking out as it would if just placed on the ground...I'll use this method even when I am removing a beaver from a trap if it is convenient.
~Illegitimi Non Carborundum~
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Re: Setting 330 by hand
[Re: U.P.trappermark]
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02/01/10 09:28 PM
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rasbo..you never had much of a love life anyway. I invite anybody that has a video camera to come out on the line with me and videotape it. If you could see how fast and easy it is everybody would do it this way. I have to say that at 19 I bought my first 330 conibears and bought a trap setter to go wtih it. Then this geeky chess playing freshman that had skinny white arms (but knew how to hand set them as I have already described) laughed at me and grabbed one and set one in a few seconds. I threw away the setter after that. I should mention that the geeky freshman was NewHouse114 on the forum here, He never lets me forget the time he showed me up on the conibears.
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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Re: Setting 330 by hand
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02/01/10 09:30 PM
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Bruce T
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being new I will use the setter or rope..Noway Im gonna mess up my love life Just how are you setting your traps?Nah never mind.lol
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Re: Setting 330 by hand
[Re: scott rainbolt]
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02/01/10 10:51 PM
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If you have youth on your side, note the previous suggestions, and diddle until you catch on to it. However, if you are anticipating setting a bunch of those stout springs by hand, there are options that are more prudent. If you want to bypass the training challenges to accomplish that, there are alternatives. Unless you want to prove that you are a bullheaded tough dude by trade. There are methods and techniques available to keep your cold tired wrists, hands and fingers out of being trapped between those heavy jaws while setting by "hand." To avoid the frustration of that in the fumble while in training, and to conserve your energy to be the most efficient on your line as possible, take a detour to consider the options afforded in this post/thread that I drafted for a reason a couple of years ago: Conibear/Body Grip Trap Setting MethodsJonathan
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Re: Setting 330 by hand
[Re: grod]
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02/01/10 10:57 PM
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charles
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Going this week for an MRI. Will probably be my third rotator cuff surgery. I'm 63. I have set 330's by hand, but the rope is much easier. I've used a setter too. Had to paint my setter with day glow orange so I could find it when I had to walk back to the trap where I last used it.
Caught my dog by the neck in a 220 bucket set once. Glad I had the setter with me. She came out alright. Saved my marriage.
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Re: Setting 330 by hand
[Re: grod]
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02/01/10 11:10 PM
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put one side on solid object compress and put the saftey latch on they are not hard to set
Trapping is like a box of chocolates you never know what you're gonna get
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Re: Setting 330 by hand
[Re: Jonathan]
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02/01/10 11:22 PM
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If you have youth on your side, note the previous suggestions, and diddle until you catch on to it. However, if you are anticipating setting a bunch of those stout springs by hand, there are options that are more prudent. If you want to bypass the training challenges to accomplish that, there are alternatives. Unless you want to prove that you are a bullheaded tough dude by trade. There are methods and techniques available to keep your cold tired wrists, hands and fingers out of being trapped between those heavy jaws while setting by "hand." To avoid the frustration of that in the fumble while in training, and to conserve your energy to be the most efficient on your line as possible, take a detour to consider the options afforded in this post/thread that I drafted for a reason a couple of years ago: Conibear/Body Grip Trap Setting MethodsJonathan Translation...work smarter...not harder!
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Re: Setting 330 by hand
[Re: Beartrapperbeef]
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02/02/10 02:54 AM
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i do not own a rope or setter. all i do is rest a jaw against me and pull on a spring them just close um together and hold the spring loops together with one hand while securing the safety latch. have yet to see on i cant set. lol was that the first and only one you set? jk
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Re: Setting 330 by hand
[Re: Flacer22]
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02/02/10 08:55 AM
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Setting a 330 by hand is mostly technique as mentioned.
Works best to put the spring eye against a solid object like a stump, bumper or the rack of the ATV. Push down and try and compress the spring with your weight.
One hand inside squeezing the spring eye's together and one hand out side working the spring. Once compressed flip the safety over and engage with the outside hand.
To be honest I find a new Duke 160 as hard or harder to set then any 330 made.
Learn to set by hand and you will never have to worry about forgetting your setter in the truck.
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