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Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? [Re: Ole Hawkeye] #1379099
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Originally Posted By: Ole Hawkeye
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Beef that hasn't been finished with grain (grass fed) is tough and tasteless. Believe me, I grew up on it, I couldn't understand why city people thought steak was so good, until I had a steak that had been finished before it was butchered.

I know some of you won't agree with me, but there is a reason feed lots go to the expense of finishing a beef, and it isn't for the few extra pounds.



Not true. It depends on what type of grass the cattle are eating. I'm not going to try to convince anyone that a steak that's been grain finished isn't good, cause it is. I am saying that the right type of cattle in the right type of grass is mighty tasty.

Elk and deer never get grain finished and they taste pretty good!


Originally Posted by Ole Hawkeye
Pat, as usual, you are right....

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? [Re: thrstyunderwater] #1379104
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Originally Posted By: thrstyunderwater
Originally Posted By: Ole Hawkeye
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Beef that hasn't been finished with grain (grass fed) is tough and tasteless. Believe me, I grew up on it, I couldn't understand why city people thought steak was so good, until I had a steak that had been finished before it was butchered.

I know some of you won't agree with me, but there is a reason feed lots go to the expense of finishing a beef, and it isn't for the few extra pounds.





Elk and deer never get grain finished and they taste pretty good!



In the words of a self described expert on cattle, "different animals, different diets, different biology.".

There is no grass that is going to give the meat the marbling and fat content that makes the flavor of finished beef distinctive.


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Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? [Re: Ole Hawkeye] #1379109
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Originally Posted By: Ole Hawkeye

There is no grass that is going to give the meat the marbling and fat content that makes the flavor of finished beef distinctive.


Now don't get your feelings hurt. I didn't say that it was going to be the same. No grass won't give the meat the marbling that the USDA decided is what we need.

I've had grassfed steaks that had little or no marbling that tasted great. I try to cut fat out of my diet, so if my steak isn't marbled then that's fine with me.


Originally Posted by Ole Hawkeye
Pat, as usual, you are right....

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? [Re: thrstyunderwater] #1379115
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MMMMM, nice marbled rib eye on the grill is the best. Kobe beef is also VERY good. Love the fat! laugh

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Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? [Re: thrstyunderwater] #1379122
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the references to McDonald's using South American beef in its U..S restaurants are wrong. The imported beef American ranchers are up in arms about comes not from South America but from Australia and New Zealand,



Most dont have a clue ......really


I worked at Fairbank Farms for 8 years , they are located in Ashville, New York.

They are a packing plant , slaughter house, and distributer of beef.

They used to buy thousands of tons of aussie beef product to grind w/ cull dairy cows for distribution to all grocerys in the north east, both in bulk and packaged in the stores labels........

If you live in the NE......you have eaten aussie roo meat as we called it..lol

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? [Re: Buzzard] #1379128
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How come nobody asks if Dunkin Donuts is worried about your health?

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? [Re: ] #1379130
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Because Dunking Donuts isn't a business like McD's, Wal Mart, and Home Depot, businesses we love to hate, no matter what they do.


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Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? [Re: ] #1379133
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Its kinda like the fish farming thingy and eatin fish for better health and cholesterol.....lol

Wild fish is good for you( minus the bio-acumlitive toxins)

Farm raised fish are not......because of the food matter that they are fed

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? [Re: Buzzard] #1379175
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I'll take a piece of moose meat any day over finished beef. And guess what, I never saw a grain fed moose.


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Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? [Re: Ponyboy123] #1379181
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add elk to that list and I would never buy anymore beef

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? [Re: Ponyboy123] #1379218
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Originally Posted By: Ponyboy123
I'll take a piece of moose meat any day over finished beef. And guess what, I never saw a grain fed moose.

Since you prefer Atlantic salmon to Pacific salmon that doesn't mean much.

Your mixing apples and oranges again, let me see if I can make it a little plainer for you. Moose is better than beef, but I'll bet finished (grain fed) moose would be better than moose that wasn't finished before being butchered. Get it?

Beef = good but Beef grain fed = better
moose = good but moose grain fed = better

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Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? [Re: Ole Hawkeye] #1379225
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Hey Hawk.......

imagine a grain fed elk steak

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? [Re: Buzzard] #1379233
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Makes my mouth water! I've had elk that had spent weeks in the alfalfa fields, man, that was so much better than the average elk!


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Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? [Re: Buzzard] #1379363
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Originally Posted By: Buzzard
Pony,

add elk to that list and I would never buy anymore beef


Even without the elk I don't buy beef anymore.Have not bought beef in many years.Between deer,moose and beef raised by my brother I don't have to.


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Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? [Re: Ole Hawkeye] #1379370
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I too was raised on grass fed meat. The fat is more yellow instead of white like grain fed and not as marbled.Grain (field corn) marbleing is what gives better flavor, higher colestrol and more heart attacks. It also takes about 140 days to finish a beef on grass but only about 90 days to do it on corn.


I DID NOT MAKE THIS QUOTE as stated above:
[quote=bfflobo]
Beef that hasn't been finished with grain (grass fed) is tough and tasteless. Believe me, I grew up on it, I couldn't understand why city people thought steak was so good, until I had a steak that had been finished before it was butchered.

I know some of you won't agree with me, but there is a reason feed lots go to the expense of finishing a beef, and it isn't for the few extra pounds.

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Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? [Re: bfflobo] #1379912
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Beef that comes from another country always has had different rules than local as long as at least 30 years ago. for example a antibiotic outlawed in the united states as cancer causeing and that was never cleared for use other than dogs unless a vet wrote a rx for it was still used in europe and canada as they both thought the risk worthwhile as opposed to the losses by not using the drug. Any beef found with this drug in them from the united states was tanked and the owner fined, however the same meat coming in from caNADA could have this drug in it and would go right on through to the grocery store through trade agreement, no fuss no muss. The very same deal was done with pork. Its not about your health fellows, its about politics, huge profits being made and being protected by huge drug companies that use huge profits to help elect huge slop suckers from huge governments. Mickey ds owns some very large feedlots, and has money invested in process plants, but the epa laws and scrutiny of the american press has always caused them to look for lean beef from other countries or sources to keep up with the demand for their fast food. Americans on the average will eat with a passion any and all tasteless flavorless beef on a bun if enough other crud is put on the bun as well and they can get it at an affordable price without having to go to a store, buying it, and then going home to spend a few minutes of their tv time to cook it and then go to all the trouble of washing a dish or tossing a paper plate.


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sounds like what the US government was saying a couple years ago about the medicines. they kept saying how the canadian pharmacies weren't held to the same standards and how the people going across the boarder are getting inferior drugs.

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? [Re: traprjohn] #1380281
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Originally Posted By: traprjohn
McD's NEVER cared about our health

when McD's started using South American beef a few yrs ago we stopped also


What's funny about MC D's (or Wendy's) is they sell all this crap that is supposed to be some of the worst stuff you can eat. Then when you order a side salad and ask for regular French or Italian dressing they get all health concious on you. "Sorry sir we only have Fat Free French/Italian". IF that doesn't get a "What The 6th letter" award I don't know what does..

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Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? [Re: BuckeyeRaTrapin'] #1380297
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Originally Posted By: BuckeyeRaTrapin'
Originally Posted By: traprjohn
McD's NEVER cared about our health

when McD's started using South American beef a few yrs ago we stopped also


What's funny about MC D's (or Wendy's) is they sell all this crap that is supposed to be some of the worst stuff you can eat. Then when you order a side salad and ask for regular French or Italian dressing they get all health concious on you. "Sorry sir we only have Fat Free French/Italian". IF that doesn't get a "What The 6th letter" award I don't know what does..


That's our government's new agenda to fight obesity. They decided to come down hard on the fast food outlets. The government's job is to protect us from ourselves, doncha know?


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Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? [Re: Ole Hawkeye] #1380553
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They don't see a dime of my money. Their food is not fit for human consumption. Imagine a buffalo hamburger with Tillamook sharp cheese and a fresh garden salad. Cost....around 40 cents...or a 1/4 puker with cheese and a preserved salad for 5 bucks?
No brainer here..........not one thin dime.


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