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Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ?

Posted By: Mira Trapper

Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 01:40 PM


Are they worried about your health or is profit margin their bottom line ?


CANADIAN Beef, a must read !!!!

This IS A GOOD DECENT MAN WHO TOOK THE TIME TO WRITE THIS AND: HE SIGNED THE STATEMENT AND: INCLUDED HIS CONTACT INFO:


I'm sure those of you who aren't in the cattle business don't understand the issues here. But to those of us whose living depends on the cattle market, selling cattle, raising the best beef possible... This is frustrating.

This will keep us from ever stopping there again, even for a drink.

The original message is from the Alberta Cattle Feeders Association. Canadian cattle producers are very passionate about this. McDonald's claims that there is not enough beef in Canada to support their restaurants. Well, we know that is not so. Our opinion is they are looking to save money at our expense. The sad thing of it is that the people of Canada are the ones who made McDonald's successful in the first place, but we are not good enough to provide beef.

We personally are no longer eating at McDonald's, which I am sure does not make an impact, but if we pass this around maybe there will be an impact felt.

Please pass it on. Just to add a note:

All Canadians that sell cattle at a livestock auction barn have to sign a paper stating that we do NOT EVER feed our cattle any part of another animal. South Americans are not required to do this as of yet. McDonald's has announced that they are going to start importing much of their beef from South America. The problem is that South Americans aren't under the same regulations as Canadian beef producers, and the regulations they have are loosely controlled.


They can spray numerous pesticides on their pastures that have been banned here at home because of residues found in the beef. They can also use various hormones and growth regulators that we can't. The Canadian public needs to be aware of this problem and that they may be putting themselves at risk from now on by eating at good old McDonald's.

Canadian ranchers raise the highest quality beef in the world and this is what Canadians deserve to eat. Not beef from countries where quality is loosely controlled. Therefore, I am proposing a boycott of McDonald's until they see the light.

I'm sorry but everything is not always about the bottom line, and when it comes to jeopardizing my family's health, that is where I draw the line.

I am sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) ... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers!

I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you? Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.


Larry Latam

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Posted By: Cragar

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 02:04 PM

I remember right after the last time mad cow caused a ruckus , McDonalds switched over to all domestic beef. They even put the words '100% American Beef ' on the cheeseburger wrappers.

I guess after things cooled down they went back to typical suppliers because corporate profits are more important.
Posted By: aprophet

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 02:14 PM

don,t eat the ice drink bottled water smile
Posted By: txcatrapper

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 02:17 PM

count me on board.they would probably say its still 100% american beef.who would want to buy it if they did know it came from south america.sounds like another disease waiting to happen.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 02:19 PM

Japan and a couple of other Asian countries banned the import of American beef because of one case of madcow disease found in one cow that had recently been bought in Canada. Hundreds of millions of dollars were spent testing the rest of the American herds, and that one cow was the only one they found it in. And, like I said, that one cow had recently been purchased in Canada. That one cow cost American ranchers a fortune. Only recently, years later, did Japan finally start allowing the import of American beef again. I believe they did the same thing with the Canadian beef.

So be careful what you wish for as far as protecting your local markets.
Posted By: choctawtrapper

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 02:30 PM

I have sworn not to and haven't eaten at MacDonalds or any fast food in 9 years. sick
Posted By: aprophet

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 02:32 PM

Originally Posted By: choctawtrapper
I have sworn not to and haven't eaten at MacDonalds or any fast food in 9 years. sick


I also ever since I started doing maintenance in them smile it is probably easier for me then most laugh
Posted By: traprjohn

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 02:53 PM

McD's NEVER cared about our health

when McD's started using South American beef a few yrs ago we stopped also
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 03:10 PM

Argentina produces some of the best beef in the world.
Posted By: Top Jimmy

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 03:14 PM

It is fast food folks. Don't eat it if you don't like it.

-TJ
Posted By: bfflobo

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 05:10 PM

Each year, National Council of La Raza (or The Race) holds a convention in Chicago to promote their subversive activities and aid illegal aliens in flaunting U.S. immigration laws across the country.

This year, McDonalds Corporation has agreed to be the title sponsor of the event.

It is unacceptable for a U.S. corporation to conspire to aid and abet illegal aliens in continuing to break our laws.

As a result, we have launched http://www.WereHatingIt.com, as a part of FIRE Coalition's America First Boycott to promote a boycott of McDonalds. We are encouraging our members, partners, and citizens across the United States to avoid spending any money at McDonalds and to divest themselves of any stock holdings (NYSE: MCD).
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 05:23 PM



You've got more problems than McDonalds sponsoring a La Raza convention. The next Supreme Court Justice is a member of La Raza. LOL
Posted By: Ole Hawkeye

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 06:07 PM

Originally Posted By: traprjohn
McD's NEVER cared about our health


well, of course not! Neither does the guy that owns the tavern around the corner! Who said business owners are in it for our health and not to make money? Do you guys still believe in Santa Clause? What is with all this jumping down McDonalds throat all the time? The mom and pop grocery store sells imported beef, too, but nobodys having fits over it!!
Posted By: Ole Hawkeye

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 06:13 PM

Check out the whole story on Snopes. Here's part of it.

the references to McDonald's using South American beef in its U..S restaurants are wrong. The imported beef American ranchers are up in arms about comes not from South America but from Australia and New Zealand, where government beef standards are even more stringent than in the U.S. And grass-fed cattle, such as the sort McDonald's is purchasing from Australia and New Zealand, don't have to be given the large amounts of antibiotics that grain-fed American cattle are typically dosed with. Cows take much longer to fatten on a grass diet than a grain diet, so American cattle are primarily fed grain (mostly corn) to get them up to market weight more quickly. However, as cows are ruminants whose natural diet is grass, a grain diet severely taxes their digestive systems, so they are often given a variety of antibiotics to fight off bacterial infections. Possibly the erroneous bit about "dangerous South American beef" was included in the call to arms to bolster support for the boycott — average consumers that might not be moved by the plight of American ranchers would be motivated by hints that McDonald's use of beef from non-U.S. sources would endanger them and their loved ones.
Posted By: bfflobo

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 06:26 PM

Seems like there is always two ways of looking at things. Our news media's are our worst enemy. They tell it like they want it and like they want us to believe. I do know that the beef we raise on corn is very high in colestrol. Our range land and farm raised beef are much healthier. That said, a lot of the latter type of beef is finished with corn. Just depends I guess.
Posted By: Bruce T

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 06:30 PM

Exactly why I would rather hunt for, or grow my own food, beef included.
Posted By: bfflobo

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 06:47 PM

Thats what I do brucet. Raise a few beef myself. Mainly eat elk and deer for the red meat in our diet.
Posted By: Ole Hawkeye

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 07:17 PM

Originally Posted By: bfflobo
Seems like there is always two ways of looking at things. Our news media's are our worst enemy. They tell it like they want it and like they want us to believe. I do know that the beef we raise on corn is very high in colestrol. Our range land and farm raised beef are much healthier. That said, a lot of the latter type of beef is finished with corn. Just depends I guess.


Beef that hasn't been finished with grain (grass fed) is tough and tasteless. Believe me, I grew up on it, I couldn't understand why city people thought steak was so good, until I had a steak that had been finished before it was butchered.

I know some of you won't agree with me, but there is a reason feed lots go to the expense of finishing a beef, and it isn't for the few extra pounds.
Posted By: thrstyunderwater

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 07:29 PM

I don't eat at McDonalds.
Posted By: Bruce T

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 07:30 PM

Originally Posted By: bfflobo
Thats what I do brucet. Raise a few beef myself. Mainly eat elk and deer for the red meat in our diet.


I eat moose instead of your elk along with my deer meat,and guess what?No steriods.
Posted By: thrstyunderwater

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 07:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Ole Hawkeye
[quote=bfflobo]
Beef that hasn't been finished with grain (grass fed) is tough and tasteless. Believe me, I grew up on it, I couldn't understand why city people thought steak was so good, until I had a steak that had been finished before it was butchered.

I know some of you won't agree with me, but there is a reason feed lots go to the expense of finishing a beef, and it isn't for the few extra pounds.



Not true. It depends on what type of grass the cattle are eating. I'm not going to try to convince anyone that a steak that's been grain finished isn't good, cause it is. I am saying that the right type of cattle in the right type of grass is mighty tasty.

Elk and deer never get grain finished and they taste pretty good!
Posted By: Ole Hawkeye

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 07:35 PM

Originally Posted By: thrstyunderwater
Originally Posted By: Ole Hawkeye
[quote=bfflobo]
Beef that hasn't been finished with grain (grass fed) is tough and tasteless. Believe me, I grew up on it, I couldn't understand why city people thought steak was so good, until I had a steak that had been finished before it was butchered.

I know some of you won't agree with me, but there is a reason feed lots go to the expense of finishing a beef, and it isn't for the few extra pounds.





Elk and deer never get grain finished and they taste pretty good!



In the words of a self described expert on cattle, "different animals, different diets, different biology.".

There is no grass that is going to give the meat the marbling and fat content that makes the flavor of finished beef distinctive.
Posted By: thrstyunderwater

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 07:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Ole Hawkeye

There is no grass that is going to give the meat the marbling and fat content that makes the flavor of finished beef distinctive.


Now don't get your feelings hurt. I didn't say that it was going to be the same. No grass won't give the meat the marbling that the USDA decided is what we need.

I've had grassfed steaks that had little or no marbling that tasted great. I try to cut fat out of my diet, so if my steak isn't marbled then that's fine with me.
Posted By: Top Jimmy

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 07:49 PM

MMMMM, nice marbled rib eye on the grill is the best. Kobe beef is also VERY good. Love the fat! laugh

-TJ
Posted By: Buzzard

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 07:53 PM

Quote:
the references to McDonald's using South American beef in its U..S restaurants are wrong. The imported beef American ranchers are up in arms about comes not from South America but from Australia and New Zealand,



Most dont have a clue ......really


I worked at Fairbank Farms for 8 years , they are located in Ashville, New York.

They are a packing plant , slaughter house, and distributer of beef.

They used to buy thousands of tons of aussie beef product to grind w/ cull dairy cows for distribution to all grocerys in the north east, both in bulk and packaged in the stores labels........

If you live in the NE......you have eaten aussie roo meat as we called it..lol
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 07:59 PM

How come nobody asks if Dunkin Donuts is worried about your health?
Posted By: Ole Hawkeye

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 08:02 PM

Because Dunking Donuts isn't a business like McD's, Wal Mart, and Home Depot, businesses we love to hate, no matter what they do.
Posted By: Buzzard

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 08:03 PM

Buck,

Its kinda like the fish farming thingy and eatin fish for better health and cholesterol.....lol

Wild fish is good for you( minus the bio-acumlitive toxins)

Farm raised fish are not......because of the food matter that they are fed
Posted By: Ponyboy123

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 08:44 PM

I'll take a piece of moose meat any day over finished beef. And guess what, I never saw a grain fed moose.
Posted By: Buzzard

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 08:48 PM

Pony,

add elk to that list and I would never buy anymore beef
Posted By: Ole Hawkeye

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 09:03 PM

Originally Posted By: Ponyboy123
I'll take a piece of moose meat any day over finished beef. And guess what, I never saw a grain fed moose.

Since you prefer Atlantic salmon to Pacific salmon that doesn't mean much.

Your mixing apples and oranges again, let me see if I can make it a little plainer for you. Moose is better than beef, but I'll bet finished (grain fed) moose would be better than moose that wasn't finished before being butchered. Get it?

Beef = good but Beef grain fed = better
moose = good but moose grain fed = better
Posted By: Buzzard

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 09:06 PM

Hey Hawk.......

imagine a grain fed elk steak
Posted By: Ole Hawkeye

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 09:11 PM

Makes my mouth water! I've had elk that had spent weeks in the alfalfa fields, man, that was so much better than the average elk!
Posted By: Bruce T

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 11:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Buzzard
Pony,

add elk to that list and I would never buy anymore beef


Even without the elk I don't buy beef anymore.Have not bought beef in many years.Between deer,moose and beef raised by my brother I don't have to.
Posted By: bfflobo

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/12/09 11:27 PM

I too was raised on grass fed meat. The fat is more yellow instead of white like grain fed and not as marbled.Grain (field corn) marbleing is what gives better flavor, higher colestrol and more heart attacks. It also takes about 140 days to finish a beef on grass but only about 90 days to do it on corn.


I DID NOT MAKE THIS QUOTE as stated above:
[quote=bfflobo]
Beef that hasn't been finished with grain (grass fed) is tough and tasteless. Believe me, I grew up on it, I couldn't understand why city people thought steak was so good, until I had a steak that had been finished before it was butchered.

I know some of you won't agree with me, but there is a reason feed lots go to the expense of finishing a beef, and it isn't for the few extra pounds.
Posted By: possum5676

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/13/09 04:52 PM

Beef that comes from another country always has had different rules than local as long as at least 30 years ago. for example a antibiotic outlawed in the united states as cancer causeing and that was never cleared for use other than dogs unless a vet wrote a rx for it was still used in europe and canada as they both thought the risk worthwhile as opposed to the losses by not using the drug. Any beef found with this drug in them from the united states was tanked and the owner fined, however the same meat coming in from caNADA could have this drug in it and would go right on through to the grocery store through trade agreement, no fuss no muss. The very same deal was done with pork. Its not about your health fellows, its about politics, huge profits being made and being protected by huge drug companies that use huge profits to help elect huge slop suckers from huge governments. Mickey ds owns some very large feedlots, and has money invested in process plants, but the epa laws and scrutiny of the american press has always caused them to look for lean beef from other countries or sources to keep up with the demand for their fast food. Americans on the average will eat with a passion any and all tasteless flavorless beef on a bun if enough other crud is put on the bun as well and they can get it at an affordable price without having to go to a store, buying it, and then going home to spend a few minutes of their tv time to cook it and then go to all the trouble of washing a dish or tossing a paper plate.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/13/09 10:29 PM

sounds like what the US government was saying a couple years ago about the medicines. they kept saying how the canadian pharmacies weren't held to the same standards and how the people going across the boarder are getting inferior drugs.
Posted By: BuckeyeRaTrapin'

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/14/09 12:43 AM

Originally Posted By: traprjohn
McD's NEVER cared about our health

when McD's started using South American beef a few yrs ago we stopped also


What's funny about MC D's (or Wendy's) is they sell all this crap that is supposed to be some of the worst stuff you can eat. Then when you order a side salad and ask for regular French or Italian dressing they get all health concious on you. "Sorry sir we only have Fat Free French/Italian". IF that doesn't get a "What The 6th letter" award I don't know what does..
Posted By: Ole Hawkeye

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/14/09 01:00 AM

Originally Posted By: BuckeyeRaTrapin'
Originally Posted By: traprjohn
McD's NEVER cared about our health

when McD's started using South American beef a few yrs ago we stopped also


What's funny about MC D's (or Wendy's) is they sell all this crap that is supposed to be some of the worst stuff you can eat. Then when you order a side salad and ask for regular French or Italian dressing they get all health concious on you. "Sorry sir we only have Fat Free French/Italian". IF that doesn't get a "What The 6th letter" award I don't know what does..


That's our government's new agenda to fight obesity. They decided to come down hard on the fast food outlets. The government's job is to protect us from ourselves, doncha know?
Posted By: TasteLikeChicken

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/14/09 05:27 AM

They don't see a dime of my money. Their food is not fit for human consumption. Imagine a buffalo hamburger with Tillamook sharp cheese and a fresh garden salad. Cost....around 40 cents...or a 1/4 puker with cheese and a preserved salad for 5 bucks?
No brainer here..........not one thin dime.
Posted By: Ole Hawkeye

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/14/09 05:41 AM

Hmmm, tastes like chicken. I'm going to my brother's house tomorrow, in Albany. Get on google and show me which street to get on to find that fast food place that I can buy a buffalo buger with cheese and a garden salad for .40? Nope, not available, in Albany so I guess I will fill my tummy with a hamburger that will upset all the union guys, but it won't cost me much and it won't kill me. BIG DEAL!!!!! I eat where it's convenient and I will live as long as any of you!

You won't eat McDonalds and a bunch of you insist on BUY AMERICAN and GO UNION and you eat farmed fish. Most of you don't even know you are buying farmed fish, because it is labled MADE IN AMERICA!
Posted By: kansasman

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/14/09 05:11 PM

Originally Posted By: Buzzard
Quote:
the references to McDonald's using South American beef in its U..S restaurants are wrong. The imported beef American ranchers are up in arms about comes not from South America but from Australia and New Zealand,



Most dont have a clue ......really


I worked at Fairbank Farms for 8 years , they are located in Ashville, New York.

They are a packing plant , slaughter house, and distributer of beef.

They used to buy thousands of tons of aussie beef product to grind w/ cull dairy cows for distribution to all grocerys in the north east, both in bulk and packaged in the stores labels........

If you live in the NE......you have eaten aussie roo meat as we called it..lol


I worked at the plant a plant in nebraska for a few years, that processed the beef into burger. Yes almost any burger you buy has a form of nondomestic meat in it. The meat from over seas comes boxed frozen solid in 60 pound cases. From new zeland, argentina, europe, and central america, they are added at about 20-28 percent versus fresh domesitc. That product went to walmart, iga, applebees, mcdonalds, hyvee, and a lot of small butcher shops, just to name a few. So if you don't kill it and grind it yourself, odds are you have eaten, "roo" meat as Buzz calls it.
Posted By: David Underwood

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/14/09 06:06 PM

Hay Buzz! You can buy grain finished
Elk steak, in about six miles of where
I sit right now. Or any other part of
a dead elk!
Posted By: Ole Hawkeye

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/14/09 06:57 PM

Come to think of it there is an elk farm in central Oregon, but I don't know if they are grain fed, I understand their market is selling antlers in velvet to Korea. Oooops, another export.
Posted By: TasteLikeChicken

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/14/09 07:25 PM

Hawkeye....you have to come to my place for dinner for that deal...LOL. Between buffalo hunting, a big garden and a wife that bakes our bread...looks after all the needs. No sodas..but there is always a keg on tap in the beer fridge.

Same deal on egg Mcmuffin...LOL....but the eggs are also produced on the "homestead" and are organic. Pancakes...we cheat there...Snoqualmie Lodge pancake mix. Best pancakes I've ever eaten. Cost on those is extremely reasonable as well.

My whole point...if you want something done right...you end up doing it yourself.
Posted By: Ole Hawkeye

Re: Is MacDonalds worried about your Health ? - 06/14/09 08:04 PM

I can't afford to do much buffalo hunting, my annual elk hunting trip puts a big enough dent in an already thin wallet, and I don't have enough room on the deck of my boat for a garden1 smile. But I will take you up on that breakfast offer some day and I will bring fresh, organic ling cod fillets and crab! Love those farm fresh eggs with bright orange yolks, not the pale yellow yolks like those grocery store eggs. When we had the place in the country I had red rocks and barred rocks, New Zealand and Flemish giant rabbits, among others and whatever hog or goat I could pick up at the auction real cheap. I raised beets and turnips (mostly for the greens) Yukon Gold spuds, I raise spuds, I buy potatoes at he grocery store, squash, onions, my own herbs.
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