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#640883 - 03/20/08 09:07 AM ??? on skunk scent glands
bglong bglong trapper Registered: 09/14/07 Posts: 413 Loc: West Virginia	I have decided that I wasted too many skunks this year. I am going to build a dispatch pole. I have to admit I'm a bit of a chicken when it comes to getting 5 feet within spraying distance. I've gotta have at least 10 feet. My ? is , is there any way of just freezing the glands and selling them without extracting? I have to admit I'm a bit chicken when it comes to puncturing that thing. Thanks, Bill
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#640894 - 03/20/08 09:15 AM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: bglong]
nyfox nyfox trapper Registered: 03/25/07 Posts: 1408 Loc: western ny	im sure you can in a jar ,but essence does not freeze _________________________ "WalMart Hat For a WalMart Head" source ...Bob W
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#640900 - 03/20/08 09:20 AM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: nyfox]
bglong bglong trapper Registered: 09/14/07 Posts: 413 Loc: West Virginia	Ok thanks... shoul I layer it in Sodium Benzoate? Also, is there a market for full glands?
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#640901 - 03/20/08 09:21 AM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: bglong]
CharlesKS CharlesKS trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 7035 Loc: Kansas,31,6-1,220,B/B NS	PRACTICE PRACTICE! and, go outside of town and away from your house to extract the glands. i did these at a buddys father in laws field entrance. _________________________ without farm subsidies, you box of cornflakes will cost you 15$
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#640902 - 03/20/08 09:22 AM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: CharlesKS]
Nick C Nick C trapper Registered: 12/22/06 Posts: 6544 Loc: Iowa 21 YEARS OLD	You also used your teeth. That's why you're my spiritual mentor. _________________________ I BLESS THE RAINS DOWN IN AFRICA!!!
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#640904 - 03/20/08 09:24 AM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: Nick C]
CharlesKS CharlesKS trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 7035 Loc: Kansas,31,6-1,220,B/B NS	yup. they are alot tougher than you think they are. also, theres two little tubular things along the side of them...those are just muscles..safe to cut, they aint essence pipelines! _________________________ without farm subsidies, you box of cornflakes will cost you 15$
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#640905 - 03/20/08 09:24 AM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: bglong]
Calvin Calvin trapper Registered: 09/12/07 Posts: 958 Loc: Farminton, Minnesota	Sucking the essence out with a syringe isn't that bad. Nothing to get worried about anyhow. Theres alot more worry getting up to that point, IMO. Think Bob Jameson has a way he/ll take the glands whole, however. _________________________ Any day above ground is a good day.
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#640906 - 03/20/08 09:26 AM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: nyfox]
possum skinner possum skinner trapper Registered: 12/25/06 Posts: 2393 Loc: Virginia 38 - act 10 - feel 68	freeze without extracting? yes you could/can ... no doubt someone will buy them ... expect less due to the fact the amount of essence to be extracted will be unknown ... also someone will have to take time to extract you can remove the scent glands like this: _________________________ You know why? 'Cause I'm a professional $;\)$
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#640912 - 03/20/08 09:33 AM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: possum skinner]
Animals Only Animals Only trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 556 Loc: Bluegill Lake Michigan	So the glands are above the rectum?
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#640917 - 03/20/08 09:37 AM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: Animals Only]
CharlesKS CharlesKS trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 7035 Loc: Kansas,31,6-1,220,B/B NS	more to the SIDES...cut strait across from the middle of the rectum. _________________________ without farm subsidies, you box of cornflakes will cost you 15$
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#640922 - 03/20/08 09:43 AM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: CharlesKS]
Calvin Calvin trapper Registered: 09/12/07 Posts: 958 Loc: Farminton, Minnesota	I cut above the rectum to allow a litte wiggle room...but I/m a novice. Someone uses a metal stationary clip to keep the anus closed, too. Thought that was a good idea and might try it. Had some leakage on a couple that I got in a hurry on. Doesn't take much pressure to force the essence out, I/ve found. _________________________ Any day above ground is a good day.
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#640926 - 03/20/08 09:46 AM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: Calvin]
CharlesKS CharlesKS trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 7035 Loc: Kansas,31,6-1,220,B/B NS	when your cutting, cut the FAT take all the fat you want..makes it a little safer. i use a scapel. _________________________ without farm subsidies, you box of cornflakes will cost you 15$
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#640956 - 03/20/08 10:13 AM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: CharlesKS]
huntngolf huntngolf trapper Registered: 11/14/07 Posts: 864 Loc: lancaster/ny	Go to mother in laws to do this
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#641637 - 03/20/08 04:49 PM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: huntngolf]
bglong bglong trapper Registered: 09/14/07 Posts: 413 Loc: West Virginia	Thanks Guys and gals. huntngolf, your advice is the exception. lol.
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#641648 - 03/20/08 04:52 PM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: bglong]
bglong bglong trapper Registered: 09/14/07 Posts: 413 Loc: West Virginia	Skinner, In the pic, are you pinching the (what ya call it..squirter end) closed while you extract?
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#641712 - 03/20/08 05:18 PM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: bglong]
Bob Jameson Bob Jameson trapper Registered: 12/25/06 Posts: 1367 Loc: SW Pa	I cut across at the base of the tail with a sharp knife/scapel/razor and continue until I can see the top of the pods. Then work your cuts until you have exposed both of them then detach cut from the intestine.Once you have done a few its quite routine. Just try not to squeeze or put pressure on the pods when cutting. Some can really be primed full especially in late Jan and Feb. Freezing of the pods and essence is common with some trappers. I get alot of those each year. The only problem is leakage can occur once the tissue hardens and several are placed in a jar they tend to bleed. Then they must be thoroughly thawed prior to extraction or the gland wont collapse fully. Only use sharp needles during extraction and you will have few problems. Its a good practice to hold a piece of loose/fat tissue on the pods with a pair of needle nose pliers while inserting the syringe into the pods.Each pod is independent and each must be entered into for full essence extraction. _________________________ http://www.jamesonsultrablend.com
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#641728 - 03/20/08 05:24 PM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: Bob Jameson]
TimberTalker TimberTalker trapper Registered: 01/29/08 Posts: 38 Loc: Arkansas	Then once you have it in the needle then what? Store it in a glass jar or???
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#641941 - 03/20/08 06:44 PM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: TimberTalker]
Bob Jameson Bob Jameson trapper Registered: 12/25/06 Posts: 1367 Loc: SW Pa	Place your essence container in a secure position like in a tomato paste can that is screwed down onto an object so as not to knock it over in the transfer process.Glass with polyseal caps is the best storage method.Metal will corrode in time. Tape seal the lid and place in a shaded cool place until use or sale. It is a good practice to mark the ounce levels on any glass bottle you are using to determine how much you have. Then you will know pretty close as to the volume for sale purposes. _________________________ http://www.jamesonsultrablend.com
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#641986 - 03/20/08 07:01 PM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: Bob Jameson]
TimberTalker TimberTalker trapper Registered: 01/29/08 Posts: 38 Loc: Arkansas	In a video I recently watched the guy said that cork worked well to plug the top of the jar with and the he claimed to insert the needle through the cork to empty his syringe. I haven't tried it but I guess it would prevent a person from spilling the essence.
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#642014 - 03/20/08 07:09 PM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: TimberTalker]
Bob Jameson Bob Jameson trapper Registered: 12/25/06 Posts: 1367 Loc: SW Pa	Experience is your best teacher. Cork is not easy to penetrate if using a wine bottle thickness/depth. The repeated insertions will cause an odor leak and evaporation in the long term. Not to mention the dulling effect on the needle from repeated use.Skunk is very difficult to contain with anything remotely pourous.It even bleeds from good closures so I wouldnt recommend cork. The method of transfer I suggest is as foolproof as I have found.I have worked a few thousand ounces over the last 30 some years and had my accidents now and then.Holding your transfer bottle in a secure base is highly recommended. _________________________ http://www.jamesonsultrablend.com
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#642036 - 03/20/08 07:16 PM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: Bob Jameson]
TimberTalker TimberTalker trapper Registered: 01/29/08 Posts: 38 Loc: Arkansas	Thanks Bob, I have no expierience with handling skunks at all. I end up catching several each year and I am considering putting them up next year. Just kind of hesitant to do so. Once little mistake on a skunk and I will be in rough shape. Like you said expierience is the best thing, but I am still questioning myself if I want to get the expierience or not.
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#642048 - 03/20/08 07:21 PM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: TimberTalker]
Bob Jameson Bob Jameson trapper Registered: 12/25/06 Posts: 1367 Loc: SW Pa	You are a trapper aintcha... LOL What makes you so special that you think you shouldnt stink once in a while like the rest of us. $\:\)$ _________________________ http://www.jamesonsultrablend.com
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#642073 - 03/20/08 07:30 PM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: Bob Jameson]
possum skinner possum skinner trapper Registered: 12/25/06 Posts: 2393 Loc: Virginia 38 - act 10 - feel 68	Originally Posted By: Bob Jameson You are a trapper aintcha... LOL What makes you so special that you think you shouldnt stink once in a while like the rest of us. $\:\)$ lol ... speak for yourself ... I'm 24/7 when it comes to stink ... reckon I'm special $\:D$ $;\)$ _________________________ You know why? 'Cause I'm a professional $;\)$
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#642084 - 03/20/08 07:34 PM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: possum skinner]
Bob Jameson Bob Jameson trapper Registered: 12/25/06 Posts: 1367 Loc: SW Pa	I dont know possum skinner I think I take the first prize for stinkiest man alive 365 plus.I get to stand alone in line at McDonalds most of the time.:)I guess that isnt very amusing to some. _________________________ http://www.jamesonsultrablend.com
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#642699 - 03/21/08 09:41 AM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: Bob Jameson]
Calvin Calvin trapper Registered: 09/12/07 Posts: 958 Loc: Farminton, Minnesota	I agree with keeping the bottle of essence upwright. I used a clean Heinze 57 bottle last year (plastic cap) and kept it in my truck within a larger container filled with sawdust so-as to keep the bottle of essence upwright. After I was done with skunk season I took this bottle out of my truck and placed it on my kitchen counter for 2 weeks without a smell... or a peep out of the Mrs..(just alittle test ya know).But I then turned the bottle over to dip the cap in melted wax:causing the essence to meet the cap threads...Then I could smell the essence even through the wax seal. Lesson learned. Keeping the essence away from the top of the bottle (cap and threads) is the way to go. _________________________ Any day above ground is a good day.
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#642715 - 03/21/08 09:59 AM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: Bob Jameson]
possum skinner possum skinner trapper Registered: 12/25/06 Posts: 2393 Loc: Virginia 38 - act 10 - feel 68	Originally Posted By: Bob Jameson I dont know possum skinner I think I take the first prize for stinkiest man alive 365 plus.I get to stand alone in line at McDonalds most of the time.:)I guess that isnt very amusing to some. OK Bob the honor is all yours Include me in the top 100 though ... lol Know what ya mean about standing in lines ... grown ups scrunch their faces and whisper ... while kids let loose with the truth ... gotta love that $;\)$ Oh, even plastic caps will turn black ... doesnt have to come in contact with it the vapor will do it also Coffee cans with sand around the bottles works good too _________________________ You know why? 'Cause I'm a professional $;\)$
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#642721 - 03/21/08 10:07 AM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: possum skinner]
Billy Y Billy Y trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 392 Loc: South Central Kansas	So what do you use the drained pods for after you extract the eseence? _________________________ Billy Y Member - M.B.6.5.0.C.L.U.B
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#642867 - 03/21/08 11:38 AM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: Billy Y]
possum skinner possum skinner trapper Registered: 12/25/06 Posts: 2393 Loc: Virginia 38 - act 10 - feel 68	Originally Posted By: Billy Y So what do you use the drained pods for after you extract the eseence? you can just grind them along wit your other bait meat ... or ya can just seperate them afterwards and toss one down a dirt hole for a extra kick _________________________ You know why? 'Cause I'm a professional $;\)$
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#642923 - 03/21/08 12:08 PM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: possum skinner]
Billy Y Billy Y trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 392 Loc: South Central Kansas	Originally Posted By: possum skinner Originally Posted By: Billy Y So what do you use the drained pods for after you extract the eseence? you can just grind them along wit your other bait meat ... or ya can just seperate them afterwards and toss one down a dirt hole for a extra kick Won't that add some skunk essence to the bait? Seems to be some residue left in mine and the still smell skunky. I use a couple last season in some hay pile sets and got no takers. _________________________ Billy Y Member - M.B.6.5.0.C.L.U.B
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#643344 - 03/21/08 05:16 PM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: Billy Y]
possum skinner possum skinner trapper Registered: 12/25/06 Posts: 2393 Loc: Virginia 38 - act 10 - feel 68	Originally Posted By: Billy Y Won't that add some skunk essence to the bait? Seems to be some residue left in mine and the still smell skunky. I use a couple last season in some hay pile sets and got no takers. yes, it'll add a lil skunk to your bait ... that's the intent $\:\)$ _________________________ You know why? 'Cause I'm a professional $;\)$
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#643544 - 03/21/08 06:47 PM Re: ??? on skunk scent glands [Re: possum skinner]
FlatSet FlatSet trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 510 Loc: Wisconsin	I cant really add much to what everyone above has said about cutting out the glands, extracting and storing the essence. I do just what they have already described. Here is a vid I made couple years back dispatching a skunk in a trap with acetone. Here are pics of the dispatch pole I made as well. Its a collapsible painter pole. I wrapped athletic tape around the end threads. Cut off the top portion of a plastic pop bottle and pushed this on over the tape. The lid screws on and off. I drilled out a hole thru the platic lid and inserted the syringe plunger thru this. This is then screwed on to the painter pole, the syringe is put on the plunger, put the needle on and you are ready to go. I use a 20cc syringe and a 1" 16 ga needle to administer the acetone. I fill the syringe with 12cc of acetone and try and inject either right behind the shoulder in the rib cage or right under the throat face on above the collar bone of the skunk. First time is the worst, gets easier each time. Been sprayed before too, its your badge of skunk trapping....LOL. Hope this helps you out. _________________________
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