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#629605 - 03/13/08 11:56 AM rat glands
coonwild Offline
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Registered: 12/25/06
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Loc: southern ontario canada
let's talk about rat glands in lure making -value amount's used for what animals etc.
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#629633 - 03/13/08 12:16 PM Re: rat glands [Re: coonwild]
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I use at least an ounce per gallon of meat base in both my predator baits. I think it is one of the top things to add to any predator bait from what I've seen, heard, and tried.

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#629638 - 03/13/08 12:20 PM Re: rat glands [Re: ADC]
huntinglonewolf Offline
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Registered: 12/27/06
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Loc: Wyoming
I use 3 oz per gal. of meat. Wouldn't make bait without it.
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#629899 - 03/13/08 04:12 PM Re: rat glands [Re: huntinglonewolf]
coonwild Offline
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Registered: 12/25/06
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Loc: southern ontario canada
what is the availibity of good full uncut spring rat glands ?
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#629928 - 03/13/08 04:28 PM Re: rat glands [Re: coonwild]
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You just about hafta trap 'em yerself.
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#629964 - 03/13/08 04:45 PM Re: rat glands [Re: Gage Drift]
coonwild Offline
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Registered: 12/25/06
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Loc: southern ontario canada
that's what i was wonderin gage i don't have a problem with gettin them as i have a spring rat season and always trap a few just for that reason spring rat # this spring will depend on when we thay out as i'm going to have to go back to work right shortly and won't be much time for trappin till fall then
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#630632 - 03/13/08 09:23 PM Re: rat glands [Re: coonwild]
coonwild Offline
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 144
Loc: southern ontario canada
anybody use rat glands in coon lure
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#630968 - 03/14/08 07:06 AM Re: rat glands [Re: coonwild]
Bob Jameson Offline
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Loc: SW Pa
Our Midnight Raider coon lure has rat glands in it.I dont think that there are many that make a commerical coon lure with rat glands due to the cost.
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#633643 - 03/15/08 07:22 PM Re: rat glands [Re: Bob Jameson]
coonwild Offline
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Loc: southern ontario canada
bob how would you rate rat glands as a coon calling ingerident ?
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#634122 - 03/16/08 06:40 AM Re: rat glands [Re: coonwild]
Bob Jameson Offline
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Loc: SW Pa
rats are high on the food chain list for coon. I dont know how many I have had eaten from coon and mink over the years in traps. The vent part is the first that is eaten most times.

Rat musk is most likely a universal attractant as is castor and when blended in the right proportions in a coon formula it really brings out the full bodied odor of that scent.I catch coon in the dead of winter and during the rut when other food lures dont have alot of effect on a boar coon.I believe the rat musk is responsible for this interest.

Mint/fish oil seems to be the more popular choice of ingredientsin a formula. Coons are not difficult to attract but when I added rat musk to my lure years ago my incidential mink catches and rat catches went way up also. So the added rat musk stayed in the formula.With the rising costs of that ingredient I may have to eventually look for a substitute in the artificial form.
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#635846 - 03/17/08 09:11 AM Re: rat glands [Re: Bob Jameson]
coonwild Offline
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 144
Loc: southern ontario canada
the reason i ask is my grandfather made a rat lure and it has caught me hundreds of coon also over the years i'm just teying to figure out if it is the rat glands or the other indegeridents that are calling the coon
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#635949 - 03/17/08 10:17 AM Re: rat glands [Re: coonwild]
Bob Jameson Offline
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 1367
Loc: SW Pa
Knowing that coon are attracted to many different odors makes it very difficult to determine which is really the primary ingredient.Blending odors and ingredients makes a lure full bodied and can make the difference in their aggressive or passive initial interest in an odor presentation.The more you appeal to an animals senses and perception the more likely you will have it in that trap the next day.

The real fact is rat glands are such a good ingredient in many formulas made for many different species it certainly doesnt hurt a formula it can only serve to improve its attraction.

But as I stated the availability of the glands and the cost to work with them in a formula is finding many looking for alternative sources or using man made replacements. There are good substitutes now and their likeness to the real material is quite good.
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