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#625196 - 03/10/08 03:33 PM Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob
dirtholeman1 dirtholeman1 trapper Registered: 09/09/07 Posts: 1418 Loc: Arkansas	I have looked through the archives and could not seem to find my answers. 1. What exactly does tincturing do ? 2. I know that alchol (drinking grade) is used to do this. Does the alchol evaporate during this process. 3. Is there a link or could you explain the ingredients along with the steps of the process? Thanks ahead ....dirthole _________________________ Just call me dirt !
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#625223 - 03/10/08 03:53 PM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: dirtholeman1]
big ab big ab trapper Registered: 05/07/07 Posts: 1258 Loc: georgia	the alcohol absorbs the scent of the tincturing material and expands it so you have more to use. _________________________ Every man must know his limitatons, I have none.
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#625283 - 03/10/08 04:29 PM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: big ab]
Asa Lenon Asa Lenon trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 2476 Loc: Gulliver, Michigan	One covers the product to be tinctured such as castor, asafoedita, catnip leaves as examples with vodka, everclear or propylene glycol. The odor is extracted out of the product by the alcolhol or glycol and then the strong smelling liquid is used in lure formulation. When tincturing I personally use 100 proof vodka, cover the product with plenty of vodka and place the bottle in a place where I can give it a good shaking everytime I pass for a couple of months or so. The longer the tincture sits, the more odor it will extract from the product. I do this with weasel musks, drop the musk pods into the alcolhol and shake many times over a few months. This stretches out a the weasel musk which is generally in limited supply. Ace
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#625294 - 03/10/08 04:32 PM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: Asa Lenon]
dirtholeman1 dirtholeman1 trapper Registered: 09/09/07 Posts: 1418 Loc: Arkansas	Great Asa Just what I Wanted To Know Thanks Man ....dirt _________________________ Just call me dirt !
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#625319 - 03/10/08 04:46 PM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: dirtholeman1]
LAtrapper LAtrapper trapper Registered: 12/22/06 Posts: 1061 Loc: Lower Alabama (Daleville)	dirtholeman1- You might find this link interesting- http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=506184#Post506184 _________________________ Note to self- Engage brain before opening mouth (or hitting the ENTER key). Ron Fry
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#625352 - 03/10/08 05:04 PM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: LAtrapper]
dirtholeman1 dirtholeman1 trapper Registered: 09/09/07 Posts: 1418 Loc: Arkansas	man that is a good read. I was in that archive so long last night I could smell lure when I went to bed LOL _________________________ Just call me dirt !
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#625482 - 03/10/08 06:22 PM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: dirtholeman1]
Beartrapperbeef Beartrapperbeef trapper Registered: 12/17/07 Posts: 173 Loc: Western Maine..... 20	What kinda vodka do you use? Orloft 100 proof is cheap but smells like gas... do you need to use a good quality vodka?
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#625488 - 03/10/08 06:28 PM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: Beartrapperbeef]
Paul Dobbins Paul Dobbins trapper Registered: 12/22/06 Posts: 2881 Loc: Golsboro, North Carolina	I use Aristocrat 100 Proof Vodka. Here it runs about $15.90 for a half gallon. _________________________
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#625539 - 03/10/08 06:52 PM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: Paul Dobbins]
Bob Jameson Bob Jameson trapper Registered: 12/25/06 Posts: 1367 Loc: SW Pa	I prefer the higher Octane Everclear.It is about double the cost on a half gallon. _________________________ http://www.jamesonsultrablend.com
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#625614 - 03/10/08 07:16 PM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: Bob Jameson]
Asa Lenon Asa Lenon trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 2476 Loc: Gulliver, Michigan	Everclear is illegal to buy in Micghigan, so I have never had an opportunuity to try it. Ace
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#625645 - 03/10/08 07:25 PM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: Asa Lenon]
Bob Jameson Bob Jameson trapper Registered: 12/25/06 Posts: 1367 Loc: SW Pa	I believe I gave you a tip regarding purchaseing it legally. It is also illegal in Pa as well. But with a permit you can acquire all you desire for your work as do I. It is a very good product for this purpose.It is not as economical but does a better extraction in a shorter period of time due to the alcohol content and when mixed with another medium it is superb. _________________________ http://www.jamesonsultrablend.com
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#625661 - 03/10/08 07:30 PM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: Bob Jameson]
dirtholeman1 dirtholeman1 trapper Registered: 09/09/07 Posts: 1418 Loc: Arkansas	Hey guys , does the alchol evapoate sooner or later leaving a thick fluid? _________________________ Just call me dirt !
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#625720 - 03/10/08 07:56 PM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: dirtholeman1]
Lone trapper Lone trapper trapper Registered: 12/22/06 Posts: 847 Loc: TX	Why is it illegal? Just curious. _________________________ Meat is murder.... Tasty, Tasty, murder!
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#625765 - 03/10/08 08:12 PM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: Lone trapper]
dirtholeman1 dirtholeman1 trapper Registered: 09/09/07 Posts: 1418 Loc: Arkansas	ttt _________________________ Just call me dirt !
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#625813 - 03/10/08 08:42 PM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: dirtholeman1]
Paul Dobbins Paul Dobbins trapper Registered: 12/22/06 Posts: 2881 Loc: Golsboro, North Carolina	I also use Everclear on some things, but I use 100 proof vodka on more than I do with Everclear. Everclear is legal to buy here and it runs around $31.90 a half gallon. When tincturing some materials, the Everclear tends to have more odor than I like, and the vodka seems to have less. On some materials, the Everclear does a better job though and odor isn't much of a problem. I don't allow the alcohol to evaporate. I seal it until ready for use. _________________________
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#625869 - 03/10/08 09:05 PM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: Asa Lenon]
WildCat WildCat trapper Registered: 12/23/06 Posts: 838 Loc: Mcloud Oklahoma	Originally Posted By: Asa Lenon Everclear is illegal to buy in Micghigan, so I have never had an opportunuity to try it. Ace We used to have big trash can parties in Michigan when I live there and we seemed to always have plenty of everclear.That was years like the early 80s must have made it illegal after that. _________________________ "There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chuck Norris lives in Oklahoma."
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#625914 - 03/10/08 09:22 PM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: WildCat]
dirtholeman1 dirtholeman1 trapper Registered: 09/09/07 Posts: 1418 Loc: Arkansas	Thanks for explaining this to me guys _________________________ Just call me dirt !
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#626087 - 03/10/08 11:06 PM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: dirtholeman1]
Calvin Calvin trapper Registered: 09/12/07 Posts: 958 Loc: Farminton, Minnesota	Is there a basic ratio of alcohol to product (castors for instance) that is being covered/tinctured? _________________________ Any day above ground is a good day.
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#626102 - 03/10/08 11:22 PM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: Calvin]
High Noon High Noon trapper Registered: 08/04/07 Posts: 324 Loc: East TN.	It depends on if you want a strong tincture or a weaker one. Some just cover the material, others use 50/50 and so on. Maybe Bob, Asa, Paul, or someone has a better answer. It's way to late for me to be on here let alone give any advice. Stan _________________________ Have a fragrant day! (you can take that one of two ways:0) http://www.highnoondeerscents.com
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#626132 - 03/11/08 12:23 AM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: High Noon]
dirtholeman1 dirtholeman1 trapper Registered: 09/09/07 Posts: 1418 Loc: Arkansas	dog gone stan I just settled in to read your post LOL Night _________________________ Just call me dirt !
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#626177 - 03/11/08 04:23 AM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: dirtholeman1]
possum skinner possum skinner trapper Registered: 12/25/06 Posts: 2395 Loc: Virginia 38 - act 10 - feel 68	Everclear makes a fine tincture for apple pie too $;\)$ _________________________ You know why? 'Cause I'm a professional $;\)$
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#626455 - 03/11/08 10:45 AM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: possum skinner]
Bob Jameson Bob Jameson trapper Registered: 12/25/06 Posts: 1367 Loc: SW Pa	There is something else that is put with the tincture that mellows the alcohol odor and holds the tinctured material in a formula so the alcohol at that point doesnt matter as it will disipate. I am not saying what it is.:)But it makes a world of difference in holding its strength. If I get time I will post some tincture material pictures to show the difference in color and strength of a tincture. The color tells the story in most cases. I do agree Everclear is more bold in odor initally on first smelling the mix but it does draw and pull what needs extracted. Possum are you drinking that apple pie tincture. LOL _________________________ http://www.jamesonsultrablend.com
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#626473 - 03/11/08 11:02 AM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: Bob Jameson]
Paul Dobbins Paul Dobbins trapper Registered: 12/22/06 Posts: 2881 Loc: Golsboro, North Carolina	LOL Bob, I also have another agent I use in conjunction with alcohol during tincturing. I thought I was the only one who knew about it. I'm using the other material more and more because I like the way it works. The first letter in the agent I use is D. Do you think this may be what you're using too Bob? _________________________
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#626479 - 03/11/08 11:05 AM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: Paul Dobbins]
dirtholeman1 dirtholeman1 trapper Registered: 09/09/07 Posts: 1418 Loc: Arkansas	OK Paul I know you aint puttin dirt in you lures LOL Good try ! _________________________ Just call me dirt !
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#626482 - 03/11/08 11:08 AM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: Paul Dobbins]
Bob Jameson Bob Jameson trapper Registered: 12/25/06 Posts: 1367 Loc: SW Pa	I have worked with the D word and also the C/O word. LOL I guess this is sort of like texting isnt it? I like the C/O combination best. _________________________ http://www.jamesonsultrablend.com
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#626489 - 03/11/08 11:13 AM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: Bob Jameson]
Paul Dobbins Paul Dobbins trapper Registered: 12/22/06 Posts: 2881 Loc: Golsboro, North Carolina	Yeah it is Bob. I like mixing the D stuff with alcohol on some things. It does a nice job. With some material I found it works great straight, yet with some material, the mix with alcohol does a nicer job. _________________________
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#626526 - 03/11/08 11:42 AM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: Paul Dobbins]
dirtholeman1 dirtholeman1 trapper Registered: 09/09/07 Posts: 1418 Loc: Arkansas	now this just aint right all the d's and c/o's this that and another yall need to take this to pm instead of taunting folks like this LOL I am tryin to figure out yalls talk wow I am really messed up now! Altho that dont take much LOL _________________________ Just call me dirt !
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#626942 - 03/11/08 04:19 PM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: dirtholeman1]
possum skinner possum skinner trapper Registered: 12/25/06 Posts: 2395 Loc: Virginia 38 - act 10 - feel 68	uh huh ... kinda rude talkin in code aint it ... M2 over on the rt56 ... but the g/o ... is far better in my opinion ... OK _________________________ You know why? 'Cause I'm a professional $;\)$
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#626990 - 03/11/08 04:44 PM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: possum skinner]
High Noon High Noon trapper Registered: 08/04/07 Posts: 324 Loc: East TN.	Oh but Bob, some extracts are more colorful than others:0) I sometimes like to drink my V with O/J and ICE! Edited by High Noon (03/13/08 02:41 PM) _________________________ Have a fragrant day! (you can take that one of two ways:0) http://www.highnoondeerscents.com
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#627202 - 03/11/08 06:19 PM Re: Lure Makers ? Paul , Asa, or Bob [Re: High Noon]
Gage Drift Gage Drift trapper Registered: 12/22/06 Posts: 486 Loc: WY & OR & IN	I'd rather they talk in code than PMs. This way, we have a clue of what they're up to, and a chance to get it figured.
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