#616247 - 03/05/08 06:43 PM
changing springs on traps ?
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Brad
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Registered: 01/29/07
Posts: 68
Loc: MILLMONT PA.
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i have no.1 1/2 and some older square jaw no.2 coilsprings.i want to put new music wire springs on. do i use the next size bigger on them and what are the steps for doing this. thank you
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#616264 - 03/05/08 06:53 PM
Re: changing springs on traps ?
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minkmaster
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Registered: 11/04/07
Posts: 1484
Loc: Mt Erie, Illinois
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Yes, a size larger if you want them to be as strong as they can be without 4 coiling.
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#616332 - 03/05/08 07:19 PM
Re: changing springs on traps ?
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Brad
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Registered: 01/29/07
Posts: 68
Loc: MILLMONT PA.
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thanks mink do you know the steps on how to do it.
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#616458 - 03/05/08 08:00 PM
Re: changing springs on traps ?
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HOKIETRAPPER
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Registered: 01/17/07
Posts: 286
Loc: Halifax VA
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Id get no 2 spings for all of them. all you have to do is wedge a flat head screw driver between the levers and the end of the spring, and pry it out of the little slits that hold the springs in. You can put the new springs on with a pair of plairs. Watch your hands because if the spring slips out of the plairs it will fly up and smack your hand.
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#616465 - 03/05/08 08:02 PM
Re: changing springs on traps ?
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minkmaster
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Registered: 11/04/07
Posts: 1484
Loc: Mt Erie, Illinois
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Hokie pretty much explained it. Be sure to watch your fingers!
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#616466 - 03/05/08 08:02 PM
Re: changing springs on traps ?
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Calvin
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Registered: 09/12/07
Posts: 958
Loc: Farminton, Minnesota
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Depends on what your targe animal is. Music wire springs are very strong. I put 1.5s in my 1.5 and wouldn't want them any stronger unless I was JUST targeting coon alone.
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#616483 - 03/05/08 08:09 PM
Re: changing springs on traps ?
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Trapper RD
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Loc: Allegany County, NY.
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Calvin, I agree 11/2's for 11/2's...... music's are plenty strong!!
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#616491 - 03/05/08 08:10 PM
Re: changing springs on traps ?
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HOKIETRAPPER
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Loc: Halifax VA
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Yea you will probaly only let one of them springs get you once. THEY HURT!
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#616569 - 03/05/08 08:31 PM
Re: changing springs on traps ?
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Brad
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Registered: 01/29/07
Posts: 68
Loc: MILLMONT PA.
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thank you guys and they are coon traps
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#616717 - 03/05/08 09:13 PM
Re: changing springs on traps ?
[Re: Brad]
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buckskinner
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Registered: 01/08/07
Posts: 68
Loc: Louisiana
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Been there done that, LOL. On 1 1/2's use 1 1/2 springs. You can easily on unmodified traps bend the frames. They are also mighty harsh on fox with unlaminated jaws.
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#616988 - 03/05/08 11:25 PM
Re: changing springs on traps ?
[Re: buckskinner]
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goldy
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Registered: 12/31/07
Posts: 1210
Loc: minnesota
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I use #2 springs on all my #1.5 coils. Definitely not too strong, especially for coon. Never had any bent frames. Never had any more foot damage, if anything less, because the foot doesn't move in the trap as much. Stronger traps come up through cover better. But, if you are talking #2 Victor square jaws, I wouldn't put #3 springs on those. I did it and it did bend the frames on a couple. I would stick with #2 springs on those.
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#617004 - 03/05/08 11:39 PM
Re: changing springs on traps ?
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Calvin
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Registered: 09/12/07
Posts: 958
Loc: Farminton, Minnesota
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Were those music wire springs or standard springs, Goldy? Man, those music wires (that I got anyhow) sure seemed real strong. Hurt my hand setting them strong (1.5).
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#617054 - 03/06/08 12:26 AM
Re: changing springs on traps ?
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mike jerrell
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Registered: 01/23/07
Posts: 1637
Loc: Mississippi
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Creful or youll warp your trap frame,Music wire is mighty strong. I got #2 on my 13/4 and #2 coils,they are baseplated and lammed. if ya need more than #2 music wire on those traps conside a 4 coil kit.
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#617167 - 03/06/08 06:27 AM
Re: changing springs on traps ?
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TexA
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Registered: 12/24/06
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Loc: Estherville, IA
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On MOST traps, if you increase the spring size, you should also laminate the jaws and baseplate the base. Overall it just improves the trap...
Clamp the base of the trap in a Bench Vise before you start, make sure it good and tight. Don't try to do it "free handed" because you're liable to end up with a screwdriver stuck into your hand....
While yoou have the trap torn apart, file square the dog and the notch in the pan too. It's a good time to "night latch" them too.
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#617222 - 03/06/08 07:18 AM
Re: changing springs on traps ?
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matt
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 131
Loc: Webster County W.V
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The best thing found to change the springs with is a nut driver. The craftsmans i use have a hole on the inside that the spring will fit inside. Makes it much easier to change the larger springs. Just watch out one slip and you will remember it for a while.
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#617232 - 03/06/08 07:23 AM
Re: changing springs on traps ?
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TreedaBlackdog
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Registered: 01/16/07
Posts: 222
Loc: Pettis County Missouri
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I just watched Charlie Dobbins video (thanks Paul) and he used a screwdriver to remove the spring and a little tube to put it back it. I'd strongly recommend the Dobbins video about trap adjusting/modifying.
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#617343 - 03/06/08 08:55 AM
Re: changing springs on traps ?
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Mason_Jarr
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Registered: 12/17/07
Posts: 41
Loc: Idaho
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A short piece (about a foot long) of brake line tubing works well to put the springs back on. It gives you a good bit of leverage.
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#617381 - 03/06/08 09:23 AM
Re: changing springs on traps ?
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goldy
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Registered: 12/31/07
Posts: 1210
Loc: minnesota
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Were those music wire springs or standard springs, Goldy? Man, those music wires (that I got anyhow) sure seemed real strong. Hurt my hand setting them strong (1.5).
Edited by goldy (03/06/08 09:23 AM)
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#617386 - 03/06/08 09:27 AM
Re: changing springs on traps ?
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goldy
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Registered: 12/31/07
Posts: 1210
Loc: minnesota
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But, if you are talking #2 Victor square jaws, I wouldn't put #3 springs on those. Me neither.I'd get rid of them and buy some decent 1.5's if your going for coon.The #2 vic square jaw IMO was the worst trap ever made.
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#617412 - 03/06/08 09:54 AM
Re: changing springs on traps ?
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matt
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Registered: 12/26/06
Posts: 131
Loc: Webster County W.V
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I have about half of dozen of the victors square jaw #2 that an old timer gave me. I have ben wondering what to do with them. They are in pretty good shape, but just dont seem that well built. i base plated them and bubbled the jaw tips, changed the springs with # 2 music wire springs. They seem pretty strong, will they be too much for fox. Or use them on coon on a water set.
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