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#329304 - 09/10/07 09:39 AM Lure Thickening agents
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What would be a good thickener to add to a canine lure? I've got an experiment going and right now its a bit watery and I would like to thicken it up a bit so I can do some test sets.
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#329310 - 09/10/07 09:47 AM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: SNIPERBBB]
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Glycerine

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#329330 - 09/10/07 10:11 AM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: OHwolfer]
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Glycerine wouldnt help in this case, I need something that could absorb the excess liquid in the lure.

Kinda like thickening gravy by adding flour.
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#329340 - 09/10/07 10:22 AM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: SNIPERBBB]
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I don't know how it would work, but I have often thought of taking a dipper and cutting it. There is some kind of powder in there that soaks stuff up and makes it jell. I am sure some brands would be better then others. If you try it out let me know what you think of it.

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#329358 - 09/10/07 10:51 AM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: MJM]
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i don't use it much but i have used the powder that jell thickens liquids

for a quick easy to obtain remedy, go to the grocery store and get you a box of knox gelatin ... it's the stuff that firms up jello lol add sparingly and keep adding until you achive what you are looking for

i've taken Marsyada's watery grey fox #102 lure and thickened it up

super dry beaver castor will also absorb moisture

rice flour ???
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#329529 - 09/10/07 01:29 PM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: possum skinner]
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Fish meal? Lanolin? TerraSorb?
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#329614 - 09/10/07 02:21 PM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: Cameron2]
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cornstarch, simple and cheap...
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#329673 - 09/10/07 03:02 PM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: Bigswamp]
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Dry dog food in small amounts, it really swells up
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#329680 - 09/10/07 03:10 PM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: Lab]
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i have used cornstarch it works good
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#329752 - 09/10/07 03:51 PM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: fishdaddy]
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Try Cabosil, available on line from people who sell fiber glass supplies. Boat builders use it to thicken fiberglass resin into a paste. Catsup makers use it to make catsup thicker. Oderless and tasteless.
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#329805 - 09/10/07 04:28 PM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: Terry]
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For most formulas with some substance but too thin for one's liking because it may drip or slop down the bottle sides, corn starch for home use will do the job without compromising the value of the lure. This wouldn't work for a true liquid lure i'm sure. Odorless tree gums like gum acacia and gum emulsion used by some commercial lure makers is generally too expensive just to treat a few lures. Ace
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#329812 - 09/10/07 04:32 PM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: Asa Lenon]
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Tera sorb... works pretty good also....

A little bit goes a long ways.....
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#329851 - 09/10/07 04:54 PM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: bulletbox]
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Bone meal, from your feed store. Saw this is a well known trappers coon book.
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#329879 - 09/10/07 05:17 PM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: coop]
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an old trapper told me ounce you can use flour. I think he said ya put it in a little water and cook it alittle till its pasty or brown it alittle in a pan. Seems like that would thicken bait better than lure. I hate the vasaline. If you send me lure with that in it I'll never order again from ya. Being an old sheep herder I like lanolin. More so as a lure base and weather proofer.

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#329899 - 09/10/07 05:30 PM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: lonerjay]
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cornstarch as a thickener generaly needs heat for it do its thing

fish meal & blood meal will change the overall odor ... might work depending on what your lure is all about? i wouldn't go that route personally

try what ya will ... but i wont just blowin smoke when i suggested the knox gelatin ... it's cheap easily obtained and odorless
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#329912 - 09/10/07 05:39 PM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: possum skinner]
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I've added glycerine to urine and it's almost like water and it thickened it up some, i would try a small amount, you may be surprised.

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#330303 - 09/10/07 09:07 PM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: OHwolfer]
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vasoline, one famous luremaker not only uses it in many of his lures but also sels it in bulk under a different name.
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#330327 - 09/10/07 09:20 PM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: possum skinner]
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 Originally Posted By: possum skinner

super dry beaver castor will also absorb moisture




In a canine lure, castor may induce the rolling reflex.

I have used this to an advantage.
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#330329 - 09/10/07 09:22 PM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: possum5676]
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I found poor results and a lot of avoidances when testing vasoline type substances in canine lures. I believe the vasoline reeks of petroleum odor to a canine and therefore is deemed unnatural when placed in the wrong setting. Ace
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#330337 - 09/10/07 09:30 PM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: Asa Lenon]
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Take a sponge and cut it up in 1x1 squares put it in a jar and add your lure, and then just throw the sponge down the hole fast and easy..
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#330344 - 09/10/07 09:40 PM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: Deadfox]
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Its a castor-based concoction, aint wasting more of that gold in it lol.
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#330498 - 09/11/07 12:06 AM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: SNIPERBBB]
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I have used flour when in a pinch.
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#330528 - 09/11/07 01:41 AM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: Dan Allen]
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cornstarch dont need heat.atleast it never did when i used it.and it dont take much.
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#330532 - 09/11/07 02:50 AM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: fishdaddy]
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 Originally Posted By: fishdaddy
cornstarch dont need heat.atleast it never did when i used it.and it dont take much.


i mean not to argue the point but ... cornstarch is usually made into a slurry ... added and brought to a high simmer to acheive it's true thickening ability

might as well add dry dusty dirt or flour ... you'll acheive the same results

might i ask what you have added to this castor based canine lure to make it so soupy it needs thickening? or does it really need thickening? just curious \:\)
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#330534 - 09/11/07 03:25 AM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: possum skinner]
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im not trying to argue the point either but i have put it in lure and it thickened it right up it was thin lure to almost like water.
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#330537 - 09/11/07 03:44 AM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: possum skinner]
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 Originally Posted By: possum skinner
for a quick easy to obtain remedy, go to the grocery store and get you a box of knox gelatin ... it's the stuff that firms up jello lol add sparingly and keep adding until you achive what you are looking for


an interesting idea. think it would go bad if there wasn't any preservative present in the lure? if the lure thickened with it was to get hot, then cold, then hot, etc... will it continue to be jelled or would it turn back to a watery state?
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#331782 - 09/11/07 09:25 PM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: crobarr]
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#331842 - 09/11/07 09:57 PM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: SNIPERBBB]
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 Originally Posted By: SNIPERBBB
What would be a good thickener to add to a canine lure? I've got an experiment going and right now its a bit watery and I would like to thicken it up a bit so I can do some test sets.


I have a dumb question. Why do you want to thicken it? Why not put it in a 4oz flip top bottle and squirt it where you want it?
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#332018 - 09/12/07 05:32 AM Re: Lure Thickening agents [Re: dugout]
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dugout...shhhhh..
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