#150144 - 03/23/07 06:20 PM
Re: Fox/Yote thread/archive
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otterman
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Posted by Fishemann222
A few pics from today, I have a buddy up from the lower 48 and he had a blast on the line with me today.
This is a new area I found today along the coast, with all the tracks it looks promising, I put in 4 sets.
Asked by Family Trapper
Fish
Way to go.
A lot of track in that last picture.
How are you staking in the frozen ground?
What are they eating when not on the gut piles. Do you have a good vole population?
Asked by otterman
fish looks like a litle hot spot.Are there any den holes on that little bluff or is it pretty much solid rock?
posted by Martentrapper
You sure get alot of back leg catches, fish.
I see some brush in the first pic, almost enough to hang a snare. Maybe you need to cut brush in the fall and import it to trapping spots in the winter.
Reply from Fishermann222
You sure get alot of back leg catches, fish.
I see some brush in the first pic, almost enough to hang a snare. Maybe you need to cut brush in the fall and import it to trapping spots in the winter.
You won't be there next year, right?
mt
Are back leg catches bad? Should I be trying for front foot catches? Just curious. I am just happy to have a foot in the trap 
Cutting brush is a good idea, but I wonder if they would avoid it. I will be here next school year yet, then I will hit the mainland. The "brush" you see in the first photo is just wild celery that is still standing.
It is rock but there are a few holes there that we found. Did not set any 330's there though, we will see how the footholds do first.
I think they eat alot of voles, but more and more fox are moving into the gutpile area now that the ground is froze and the snow is hard pack. I think that is why I am finally starting to do better. Just took a little bit longer this year for them to move in.
Len I am using rebar and I will attach a pic of how I am attaching it to the trap. It works well for me so I can move traps when I want, I just cut the snare cable and slap on a new washer and it is good to go again. WOrks for fox, I would not trust it for much else.
Thanks for the compliment Takotna means alot coming from a trapper like you
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#153284 - 03/26/07 10:48 AM
Re: Fox/Yote thread/archive
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otterman
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Loc: SW Alaska
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Question from KUSKO
Ok, one my question. I have a wandering coyote up at my marten line. We cut his tracks every time we go up. What would be a good set for this guy? Should I make a large cubby for him and just cover the trap?? I have snares, but it seems there is not consistency in his pattern to justify that.
reply from piperniner
Might try a bait set with footholds for the coyote. Lots of different sets would work.
Reply from Martentrapper
Yotes are like foxes. Cubbies are not the standard yote set. How do you know it'a a yote, and not a big fox? Pee post set or something similiar. If he's hanging around a particular area, he may not get caught at a cubby, but you might snare him on a trail near it. Check Tman for yote type sets. They are generally made out in the open.
Reply from Rick Phillips
Kusko, If the coyote/fox/whatever is checking out your marten sets, you can probably take it right there. I find with my vertical sets they often just walk right up to the base of the tree where the set is. A couple of sticks to sort of guide them in and a trap right under the marten box and 8-10" out from the tree trunk has worked fine for me. It probably won't take a smart one, but I'll skin a dumb one anytime.
Reply from Otterman
Kusko If you have a place that canine is crossing your trail somewhat regular or walking your trail I like a scent post or a walk through flat set with some beaver meat for bait. If you have any beaver houses he is walking up on set a trap right in the trail where he walks up on the house this gets a fair amount of critters. I like to find two sticks that force his foot on the trap on the trail going up on the house, sometimes you have to plant one of the sticks. This set will take a few more critters if you stick some LDC of some kind on a stick on top the house. I dont know about other place but here every fox or yote that comes along will get up on a beaver house and have a look see across the flats it is a weakness that can be capitalised on.
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#153908 - 03/26/07 06:23 PM
Re: Fox/Yote thread/archive
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Alaskan
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Loc: Nome, Alaska
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#154501 - 03/26/07 10:05 PM
Re: Fox/Yote thread/archive
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otterman
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I have found the fox investigate almost every beaver house they come to. It just makes sense to make a set for them on the higher houses. I picked one off another house today that was a blind set in the trail going up the side of the house. They use them for elivation to look across the flats for the most part. but a little magnum or LDC helps get tehm walking around occassionally I will stuff a mink carcas or chunk of beaver meat in a hole and set a trap in front part way up on a house they seem to liek to go about 3/4 the way up then walk down kinda walk up and down in an arc on the side of the house.
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#154933 - 03/27/07 10:28 AM
Re: Fox/Yote thread/archive
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Alaskan
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I have found the fox investigate almost every beaver house they come to. It just makes sense to make a set for them on the higher houses. I picked one off another house today that was a blind set in the trail going up the side of the house. They use them for elivation to look across the flats for the most part.
I've been told that fox don't like cubbies because they can't see in all directions. A beaver lodge set is perfect because they have no fear going up there since they can see in every direction. I've made a variation of the PVC set for fox. In the middle of the field, I place a pipe (pre freeze), so that in winter it is frozen solid and at the right angle. I then throw some bait in the pipe and just lay the trap at the base of the pipe. Dab a small amount of gland lure on the end, and perfect-o. I've taken 3 on this one set this year. Would have been more but the last one did some damage to my leaning pipe.
For some reason, they are more open to investigate if its in the clear and nothing surrounds it.
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#155299 - 03/27/07 03:22 PM
Re: Fox/Yote thread/archive
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Katherine
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Registered: 03/25/07
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Loc: Virginia
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How do you keep your traps from freezing in the snow? By the way cool pictures!!
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#155302 - 03/27/07 03:23 PM
Re: Fox/Yote thread/archive
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Katherine
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Registered: 03/25/07
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#155353 - 03/27/07 03:55 PM
Re: Fox/Yote thread/archive
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Kusko
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Registered: 12/23/06
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Loc: Bethel, AK
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How do you keep your traps from freezing in the snow? By the way cool pictures!!
I use wax paper or coffee filters on top and below the trap. I 've seen guys use small grocery bags also.
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