Re: Does blue matter in price??
[Re: Pro-Hunt]
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08/26/08 05:37 PM
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CharlesKS
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he dont dock on blue coon?
sned me his address!
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Re: Does blue matter in price??
[Re: Pogo]
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08/26/08 05:45 PM
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CharlesKS
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yes, sned me is the private club word for send when your really excited and trying to be the first to make a responce!
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Re: Does blue matter in price??
[Re: Dead Coyote]
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08/26/08 05:53 PM
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Dead Coyote
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If I sell green, very rarely will the buyer even look inside the pelt to see if it's blue or not. I believe what Wiggler said about quoting Greg S. because all that matters is fur that they grade not the leather. It all tan's the same. But don't get me wrong, not all blue coon will have great fur. So don't go out and think your early coon are going to make you the best money. They won't!
Live everyday like it is the last day of your life! MJPPTA 1%
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Re: Does blue matter in price??
[Re: baker]
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08/26/08 05:54 PM
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Dead Coyote
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whos this greg fella? if he dosnt dock i can get him plenty of GORGEOUS raccoons here come november first... Coon grader at NAFA.
Live everyday like it is the last day of your life! MJPPTA 1%
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Re: Does blue matter in price??
[Re: Dead Coyote]
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08/26/08 05:55 PM
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Dead Coyote
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whos this greg fella? if he dosnt dock i can get him plenty of GORGEOUS raccoons here come november first... Coon grader at NAFA and does alot of skinning-stretching demos at conventions for NAFA.
Live everyday like it is the last day of your life! MJPPTA 1%
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Re: Does blue matter in price??
[Re: baker]
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08/26/08 06:15 PM
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Martin
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Most of the coon in SE Nebraska are ready when season opens Nov. 1st. Boars will usually have clear or light slate colored skin, kits dark blue and females somewhere between the boars and kits. My buyer does not pay any less for put up blue hides then he does for cream skin so long as the fur is the same. Bring in a flat haired dark blue/black hide and of course it's worth less then a fully furred one. IMO it's harder to put up a blue hide because the skin is thinner and it's easy to get down to hair roots with just the dull side of the knife.
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Re: Does blue matter in price??
[Re: willvalley]
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08/27/08 05:19 AM
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It was always my understanding that it's the prime of the fur that matters. I thought that a blue hide meant that it MIGHT NOT be in the best of prime.
I could be wrong.
Beer will give you kungfu powers.
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Re: Does blue matter in price??
[Re: kybeaverman]
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08/27/08 08:31 AM
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I've sold to 4 or 5 local buyers and all docked for blue.Heck I'd start earlier if it didn't matter.
Good lord willing and the creeks don't rise.
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Re: Does blue matter in price??
[Re: wiggler]
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08/27/08 09:58 AM
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I heard him say the same thing wiggler. But it leaves me with a question, if it doesn't matter if it's blue or not, just the fur, why put it up leather out? If all you care about is the fur, you should see all of that and not the leather, right?
Born to hunt, forced to work
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Re: Does blue matter in price??
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08/27/08 10:45 AM
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BobMo
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I've never been docked for blue hides. My buyer simply looks at the quality of the fur. If your fur is good and the hide is blue and your buyer is docking you, find a new buyer.
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Re: Does blue matter in price??
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08/27/08 11:08 AM
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don Wolf
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I buy fur acording to the fur, not the hide or leather color. A coon hide that is blue that has nice fur on it will go for a no 1 skin. I have worked with Greg for many years in the coon mkt. and you take what he tells you to the bank. Mind you all blue coons do mot make a no 1 grade just like all creamy hides don't make a no 1 skin. Believe it or not there is a time when the hide can be at light blue color and be at it's best for the season. This is another subject I could write a small book on. But do not let the blue hide scare you from trapping when season opens. Once a coon hide reaches the creamy white color on the leather, it only has about 2 weeks before it starts to go downhill. So what all this amts. to is, I would just as soon have a hide that is a bit blue over a hide that is getting past prime. The early coon have superior color over the coon that is caught later in the season. The guard hair is of better quality if taken just before full prime . After a coon or any other animal starts to get past the 2 week prime time, the guard hair starts to get dingy and starts to break on the tips. The leather also starts getting a bit on the poorer side. It gets bite marks, little rubs,dirty , and at times weak spots in it. So all in all, I would rather buy a good furred blue coon over a later caught prime coon that is going downhill. The 2 skins are going to bring the same money from the end user.
Last edited by don Wolf; 08/27/08 11:11 AM.
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Re: Does blue matter in price??
[Re: don Wolf]
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08/27/08 02:54 PM
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This is all very good to know.
Gotta spread your arms and hold your breath and always trust your cape. ~ Jerry Jeff Walker
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Re: Does blue matter in price??
[Re: mike jerrell]
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08/27/08 03:26 PM
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j morris
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Here in Kansas I think our "slate" coons are at their best and NO you shouldn't get docked for it, go elsewhere if you do. That is what an inspection window is for. We only have a little bit of time on a milky white before they are chewed up or they hole up because of weather.
BTW, Greg knows his [Please excuse my language... I'm an idiot]....
"I stop putting catchy phrases in my signature because too many of you morons keep stealing them to put on your facebook pages....."
Jerry Morris
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Re: Does blue matter in price??
[Re: CharlesKS]
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08/27/08 03:54 PM
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yes, sned me is the private club word for send when your really excited and trying to be the first to make a responce! lmfao!
"Coons for the money, Coyotes for the show"
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Re: Does blue matter in price??
[Re: wissmiss]
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08/27/08 05:38 PM
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I was waiting for Wissmiss to settle this arguement for us.
I have nothing clever to put here.
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Re: Does blue matter in price??
[Re: don Wolf]
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08/27/08 06:10 PM
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Martin
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Sharing knowledge is never done in vane Don. Many of us pay extra attention when folks like you,Greg and Asa ect. have something to say. If folks want to nap in class then that's their loss.
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Re: Does blue matter in price??
[Re: wiggler]
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08/27/08 09:28 PM
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Blue skins leather side are just In most cases a good way for the local buyer to down grade your fur. There are some who live by It. I have sold a lot of Oct 15th caught coon and recived some very good prices at auction but take those same coon to good old groney and they will be down graded to just about worth less. When your season starts It's time to set your steel.
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