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Re: What makes a fur turn prime.... [Re: Gary] #842207
08/19/08 01:58 PM
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Yeah, no kidding. The thing you've really got to watch out for is that pesky light in your freezer. One time mine malfunctioned, it stayed on for days and days, of course I never knew it. I bet you can guess what happened; all my furs "unprimed" in there, gall-dern-it-anyway.

Re: What makes a fur turn prime.... [Re: Fox Claw] #842211
08/19/08 02:00 PM
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thats TERRIBLE !!! sorry to hear that
hope ya got that fixed


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Re: What makes a fur turn prime.... [Re: Gary] #842218
08/19/08 02:07 PM
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Well, it really was ok, ya see I run drags. Most of my critters run into lightless caves before I find them. Let me tell ya, a few days in those caves and they come out like super prime mutants. Foot long hair on coons and whooly-bugger foxes. I've got to put 'em on the wifes tanning bed for an hour just to skin 'em.

Re: What makes a fur turn prime.... [Re: Gary] #842221
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So you skin them and save the eyes as well as the pelt!!! novel thought. I wonder if the August road kills when put in there prime up if you take the bulb out? LOL

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Re: What makes a fur turn prime.... [Re: BBLWI 2] #842228
08/19/08 02:15 PM
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Why do people trap in the mountains out west a month before the low lands?T.20

Re: What makes a fur turn prime.... [Re: Tactical.20] #842247
08/19/08 02:28 PM
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T.20 You see, a while back PETA had a super secret experiment going on. They where catching critters and doing things to their endocrine system, espically the penial gland. They were trying to prevent critters from producing prime fur in an effort to sabotage the fur industry. The experiment was a flop, in fact, and to PETA's horror, the animals starting priming early. PETA cancelled the experiment. They took all the now mutant early primers and drove them to the tops of mountains where noone would find them, even dropped a few by helicopter.

And thats why fur primes earlier in the mountains - I thought everyone knew about that.

Re: What makes a fur turn prime.... [Re: Fox Claw] #842273
08/19/08 02:45 PM
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Ah ha!T.20

Re: What makes a fur turn prime.... [Re: Tactical.20] #842309
08/19/08 03:19 PM
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I have opossum sun glasses for sale "the strap on kind" $9.99 / pr...well worth the money folks...limited supply

Re: What makes a fur turn prime.... [Re: ] #842318
08/19/08 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: Ohbuyer
I have opossum sun glasses for sale "the strap on kind" $9.99 / pr...well worth the money folks...limited supply


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Re: What makes a fur turn prime.... [Re: Fire Fly Guy] #842320
08/19/08 03:23 PM
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all pms returned keep um coming

Re: What makes a fur turn prime.... [Re: ] #842327
08/19/08 03:26 PM
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are these the same we were issued when joining SPOET ?


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Re: What makes a fur turn prime.... [Re: ] #842328
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Ohbuyer, you never returned my PM! I want a case, whats shipping to 14034? Any pictures?


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Re: What makes a fur turn prime.... [Re: ] #842336
08/19/08 03:30 PM
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Careful guys, you've got to be sure their polarized sun glasses for possum. The wrong kind just makes their tail fuzzy.

Re: What makes a fur turn prime.... [Re: Fox Claw] #842368
08/19/08 03:43 PM
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gary not the same ones"they woudn't fit ya"

FFG check your pm's by clicking "my stuff" where the white envelope is flashing...stupid

whisker d..they are polarized...thanks

Re: What makes a fur turn prime.... [Re: ] #842371
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ohhhh ok then ,,,,, PM sent


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Re: What makes a fur turn prime.... [Re: DFronek] #842457
08/19/08 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: Blak coyote


Fur farmers have been doing it for years for both pelting and breeding purposes.There is now a small pellet type pill that can be injected under the skin in the neck area of say a mink or fox that has the same effect as the melitonin(?sp) that will bring the fur into prime a month sooner.By doing this it allows the fur farmer a larger time frame to pelt when you have a large operation.Inject some with the pellet to get a jump on the pelting season.

Where can I get a couple thousand of these pellet pills,and the injection device?

Re: What makes a fur turn prime.... [Re: ] #842472
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Originally Posted By: PSB1011
Originally Posted By: Blak coyote


Fur farmers have been doing it for years for both pelting and breeding purposes.There is now a small pellet type pill that can be injected under the skin in the neck area of say a mink or fox that has the same effect as the melitonin(?sp) that will bring the fur into prime a month sooner.By doing this it allows the fur farmer a larger time frame to pelt when you have a large operation.Inject some with the pellet to get a jump on the pelting season.

Where can I get a couple thousand of these pellet pills,and the injection device?


Talk to a fur rancher.It's legal in Canada and would think it's approved by now in the U.S.

Re: What makes a fur turn prime.... [Re: DFronek] #842791
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I think its mostly photoperiod, but weather has to have something to do with it. For example, at the MN state fair, they have a duck pond with all kinds of wild north american duck species, all of them in their full breeding plumage. This is in the last part of august. Any duck hunter knows fully feathered drakes are few and far between even in the end of september. My dad and I asked how they get them to be feathered out, and the guy that is in charge of the ducks said they keep them inside and adjust the amount of light each day to get them to molt and grow their breeding feathers.

What he did say was that the ducks don't grow much of a down layer though since its like 80 degrees in the shed the keep em in. Now if it was light alone wouldn't they grow a thick layer of down like the do in the fall.

Now I know these are ducks and not furbearers. Now think about this, I can't imagine a furbearer getting a super thick prime coat if you decreased their photoperiod and kept their environment at 90 degrees. I have no doubt the fur would change but I can't imagine they would have the same amount of underfur they would in the wild in january in MN. Now imagine that you give an animal say 20 hrs of light but steadily decreased the temperature to very cold, say 0 degrees. I would have to think that that animal would grow a denser coat.

Re: What makes a fur turn prime.... [Re: johnsd16] #842803
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Been said several times already, the only thing that starts and stops fur priming is the amount of light hitting the eye's, makes a special gland go to work.

Now all the other things have an effect on the type of fur the animal will grow, diet and genetics primarily the top sources.


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Re: What makes a fur turn prime.... [Re: GritGuy] #842818
08/19/08 08:33 PM
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Wish there was an oral pellet pill,could go around with 1000s of em at stategic locations,and catch prime fur from the start of the season.

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