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Rebar Stake Question #826744
08/09/08 05:17 PM
08/09/08 05:17 PM
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Northwestern New York(Elder)
Jonathan Offline OP
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There was a recent question by what I believe to have been asked by a young trapper. It essentially asked if a triangle were welded to the end of one stake, would it be as good as a double stake for coyotes.

There were no responses to the post, and it appears the poster may have been discouraged by that and deleted his post.

Cannot remember your total ID, but I believe the word "boy" was in it. If you are out there and listening, this is my response to your original question:

I believe you are talking about what is referred to as a "spade" stake - the triangle at the base. Many years ago I saw versions of these made by welding sickle bar blades to rebar. I recall them being used for fox trapping stakes.

Not sure if one spade stake would be an adequate substitute for double staking at a coyote set. That would depend upon the soil type and the length of the stake.

Double staking for coyotes is a proven staking method used and praised by many trappers.

However, there are many rebar stake users who have switched to using cable stake anchors ("disposable stakes") because of their compactness, light weight and effectiveness. Have you considered using them as an option to rebar configurations?

Jonathan

Re: Rebar Stake Question [Re: Jonathan] #826747
08/09/08 05:22 PM
08/09/08 05:22 PM
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Saw the post, and almost answered with an opinion, but decided not to, as I never tried it and couldn't say. Would probably hold better than a single stake, but, better than a cross staked double ???.


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Re: Rebar Stake Question [Re: BigBob] #826761
08/09/08 05:36 PM
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Bob, I have never used one for land trapping either, but I made up a few over 30 years ago using the sickle bar blades for water trapping raccoons.

The holding power of a stake like that for coyotes would undoubtedly be directly proportional to the size, shape and surface area of the spade. It seems like it would be awkward and bulky to use efficiently.

Jonathan


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Re: Rebar Stake Question [Re: Jonathan] #826770
08/09/08 05:45 PM
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i think it was bow child.


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Re: Rebar Stake Question [Re: goat] #826775
08/09/08 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: goat
i think it was bow child.

Yep thats him.


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Re: Rebar Stake Question [Re: Blackdog] #826781
08/09/08 05:53 PM
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Goat, That was it now that I see. Thanks.

Jonathan


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Re: Rebar Stake Question [Re: Jonathan] #826782
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your welcome


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Re: Rebar Stake Question [Re: ] #826865
08/09/08 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted By: phillip D
you talked about welding a sicle mower blade on the rebar would you put one one each side or one total and would this make them drive into the ground better?
It would not make them easier to drive into the ground, but harder. The purpose would be so they couldn't be pulled out as easy as a regular rebar.


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Re: Rebar Stake Question [Re: goldy] #826873
08/09/08 07:32 PM
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Northwestern New York(Elder)
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Phillip, I just used one blade with those I used on the water line.

If two were welded on, the gap between them would plug up, creating some serious resistance to driving the stake in easily for a land set. I do not see any physical advantage using two blades - not worth the trouble from my view.

Jonathan


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Re: Rebar Stake Question [Re: ] #826943
08/09/08 08:40 PM
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Jonathan Offline OP
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Phil, Before you weld the blade onto the the stake, grind the blunt end of the stake down to a taper to decrease the resistance when driving it in. It will help a little bit.

Are you going to use these for land sets?

Jonathan


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