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Re: Sold to Carlsons today [Re: Oakey] #8134576
05/06/24 02:04 PM
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Steven 49er Offline
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What I lose on $30 beaver I make up for on volume....


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Sold to Carlsons today [Re: coondagger2] #8134579
05/06/24 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by coondagger2
Originally Posted by foxkidd44
A 9-10 dollar average on coon is pretty decent.
I would actually enjoy a 10 dollar average to be the trend…plenty of coon out there to catch, easy to skin and put up,,, and you aren’t going to have much competition.
I can make money with averages like that

No you can't. Figure up your cost for equipment to catch that coon, then figure mileage, then figure time to catch, skin, flesh, board, and dry. 10 bucks a head is less than the cost of production

Actually, I can.. I have a plethora of trapping opportunities that has a major lake with public grounds, a river system and creeks that have water almost year around… surrounding by prime habitat and crop land. All within 4 miles of my back door. I can skin a raccoon in around 3 minutes without a skinning machine,, flesh in approximately 5-6 minutes… 2-3 minutes to board…I don’t really spend alot of money on gas… I don’t buy bait because I catch all the bait I need in the warmer months.


Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last.
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Re: Sold to Carlsons today [Re: coondagger2] #8134587
05/06/24 02:27 PM
05/06/24 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by coondagger2
Originally Posted by foxkidd44
A 9-10 dollar average on coon is pretty decent.
I would actually enjoy a 10 dollar average to be the trend…plenty of coon out there to catch, easy to skin and put up,,, and you aren’t going to have much competition.
I can make money with averages like that

No you can't. Figure up your cost for equipment to catch that coon, then figure mileage, then figure time to catch, skin, flesh, board, and dry. 10 bucks a head is less than the cost of production

I could. I'm retired and my time is worth nothing. If I wasn't trapping I'd probably would not be making money but spending it. Had most of my coon traps, fleshing knife and wire stretchers etc.... since the 70's So cost now after catching thousands of animals is negligible. I'd probably be driving around doing nothing if a wasn't trapping just burning gas.
It's all how you look at it when you get older
I'm out improving my health by trapping and that is priceless. Also my marriage is saved by me not irritating the wife because I'm not trapping. Which in turn saves on divorce proceedings, alimony and lawyers fees and/or marriage counseling.
Come to think of it I'd be rich if I coon trap and averaged $10!!!
See how that works?


NYSTA, NTA, FTA, life member Erie county trappers assn.,life member Catt.county trappers
Re: Sold to Carlsons today [Re: Oakey] #8134590
05/06/24 02:32 PM
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It's not "how you look at it" it's either profitable or it isn't.

That doesn't mean there is anything wrong with doing it at a loss.I'm guilty as well.


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Sold to Carlsons today [Re: Oakey] #8134594
05/06/24 02:45 PM
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10 dollar avge could easily be profitable for some and not for others depending on many many variables.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Sold to Carlsons today [Re: Steven 49er] #8134620
05/06/24 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
It's not "how you look at it" it's either profitable or it isn't.

That doesn't mean there is anything wrong with doing it at a loss.I'm guilty as well.

Correct. Just because you can catch them in your back yard doesn't mean its profitable.

I figured this all up one time. Depreciated equipment costs, time to set and check each trap assuming a certain catch rate, time in put up, etc. At 10 bucks a coon I also had to have a strong meat market, pecker market, and skull market to make it make sense

You would make more money working the McDonald's drive thru line than selling $10 coons, but what fun is that


Gotta live up to the nickname...
Re: Sold to Carlsons today [Re: Boco] #8134629
05/06/24 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
10 dollar avge could easily be profitable for some and not for others depending on many many variables.

Yes

Re: Sold to Carlsons today [Re: Giant Sage] #8134668
05/06/24 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Originally Posted by Boco
10 dollar avge could easily be profitable for some and not for others depending on many many variables.

Yes

Yup. My time ain't worth much, especially when I don't mind skinning and enjoy putting up coon. No real equipment depreciation as I've owned the same stuff for a lot of years. (That would become a factor if equipment needs replaced.) Fuel is the big expense.....
When it comes right down to it, I guess it doesn't really matter because I know I'm going to do it anyway. grin

Re: Sold to Carlsons today [Re: trapdog1] #8134695
05/06/24 05:52 PM
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Youze guyz doing it for fun are ruining it for all the "pro" trappers
by flooding the market with near worthless low dollar fur.

The only honorable & ethical thing for you trapping hobbyists to do
is to cease & desist this unprofitable trapping for fun activity & go home,
and wait for boredom , various infirmities, & old age to take you !!! wink

w


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Re: Sold to Carlsons today [Re: Oakey] #8134700
05/06/24 05:57 PM
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Sorry, walleyed. I'll just stay in my rocking chair from now on! grin

Re: Sold to Carlsons today [Re: Oakey] #8134706
05/06/24 06:08 PM
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If your water trapping , I.e. beaver, then coon become the old muskrats. Gas money?

Re: Sold to Carlsons today [Re: Oakey] #8134789
05/06/24 08:37 PM
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My dad told me in 1988 that 10 dollar coon was a good market.

36 years later?


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Sold to Carlsons today [Re: Oakey] #8134793
05/06/24 08:39 PM
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I made more money this past season trapping than I ever did duck hunting.


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Re: Sold to Carlsons today [Re: walleyed] #8134800
05/06/24 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by walleyed
Youze guyz doing it for fun are ruining it for all the "pro" trappers
by flooding the market with near worthless low dollar fur.

The only honorable & ethical thing for you trapping hobbyists to do
is to cease & desist this unprofitable trapping for fun activity & go home,
and wait for boredom , various infirmities, & old age to take you !!! wink

w

Surprised Dirt hasn't chimed in here on this post ^^^^ with a "x2".


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Never Half-Arse Anything!

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Re: Sold to Carlsons today [Re: Steven 49er] #8134803
05/06/24 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
It's not "how you look at it" it's either profitable or it isn't.

That doesn't mean there is anything wrong with doing it at a loss.I'm guilty as well.

Don't let facts get in the way. Actual profit fur trapping is something that is nonexistent for most .There's very few that the bottom line says otherwise. But of course its ok if I trap at a loss. LOL.

Last edited by blackhammer; 05/06/24 08:56 PM.

Ah,for the life of a millionaire,say some,but just let me stay a trapper. Bill Nelson
Re: Sold to Carlsons today [Re: blackhammer] #8134835
05/06/24 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by blackhammer
Originally Posted by Steven 49er
It's not "how you look at it" it's either profitable or it isn't.

That doesn't mean there is anything wrong with doing it at a loss.I'm guilty as well.

Don't let facts get in the way. Actual profit fur trapping is something that is nonexistent for most .There's very few that the bottom line says otherwise. But of course its ok if I trap at a loss. LOL.



A LOSS? Is there any other way?


I have nothing clever to put here.





Re: Sold to Carlsons today [Re: Oakey] #8134879
05/06/24 10:32 PM
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I can’t think of a better way to pass time.

Re: Sold to Carlsons today [Re: Oakey] #8134982
05/07/24 05:44 AM
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sold 20 put up beaver to barns, avg. 30.45, 8 small in there

Re: Sold to Carlsons today [Re: Oakey] #8135017
05/07/24 07:39 AM
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Despite it being impossible I managed to put more in my pocket then I took out this Spring !


It’s a lazy man who can’t find his wife a second job !
Re: Sold to Carlsons today [Re: 2poor] #8135064
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Originally Posted by 2poor
Despite it being impossible I managed to put more in my pocket then I took out this Spring !

That's definitely one method of accounting. Don't figure dollars per hour, takes the fun out of it.

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