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Breeding pythons for meat #8128562
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Interesting

Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Wolfdog91] #8128565
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Rabbits and chickens, which are fed to pythons, are clearly more sustainable than farmed pythons.

I've eaten python and it tasted fine, but was very, very chewy. It may have been overcooked.

Keith

Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Wolfdog91] #8128595
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Florida has enough problems with pythons as is without having people getting into raising them.
Some will undoubtedly do it responsibly, others, not so much.

Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Wolfdog91] #8128598
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The new ostrich farm?Or was it Emu?

Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Wolfdog91] #8128599
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Very bad idea !

Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Wolfdog91] #8128611
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and you thought goats were hard to keep in a pen


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Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: KeithC] #8128626
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Rabbits and chickens, which are fed to pythons, are clearly more sustainable than farmed pythons.

I've eaten python and it tasted fine, but was very, very chewy. It may have been overcooked.

Keith



I ate rattlesnake once and the more you chewed it the bigger it got in your mouth. I was pretty intoxicated at the time but there wasn't enough hooch to get me to try a second bite.


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Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Wolfdog91] #8128631
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Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Wolfdog91] #8128678
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There are python eggs in the incubator at my house right now. Not for meat but pets. It's my daughters side business.

Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Wolfdog91] #8128686
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IDK.

Seems like a bad idea to me.

I imagine they would make nice boots though.


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Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Wolfdog91] #8128691
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Rattle snake tastes fine to me. Never ate a python. Not much meat on a rattler. Have to eat several if your hungry. Python is a constrictor so likely has more meat but what will they be fed? Sounds like more hippie nonsense to me. The folks eating them in S.E. Asia are catching wild snakes that have fed their selves.


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Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: danny clifton] #8128708
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Rattle snake tastes fine to me. Never ate a python. Not much meat on a rattler. Have to eat several if your hungry. Python is a constrictor so likely has more meat but what will they be fed? Sounds like more hippie nonsense to me. The folks eating them in S.E. Asia are catching wild snakes that have fed their selves.


My daughter feeds hers mice rats ,and Africa soft furs that she breeds herself. She sells her extras nan not only covers all her feed cost but makes a small profit.


It sounds crazy at first but with the right stack of genetics I ran the #s and she can make over 20 k a year off 10 females. There is a lot to getting the genetics people will pay a lot for and it's a very long game taking 2 to 3 years for them to obtain breeding age. But the potential is definitely there

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Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Wolfdog91] #8128732
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Your talking about pets though not a food source. Makes more sense to me to just eat the rats and rabbits you would be feeding the snakes.


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Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Wolfdog91] #8128758
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had a guy in ohio that gave me 10.00 for roosters. he had a old house trailer he used as a pen. grab the roosters and throw them in alive. he said when the snake is hungry it'll eat!


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Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Wolfdog91] #8128928
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went to a exotic auction a few years back a guy had 25 give or take first 2 or three brought 5 to 10 dollars couldnt get a bid on the rest they w e re full grown a young couple in local town had a new born baby the snake got loose and killed the baby i talked to the vet that put the snake down said the snake was really pretty and only doing what it does naturally i would have been the one that sold them that snake even when it wasnt their fault

Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Wolfdog91] #8128948
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A concern with raising them might be if the market doesn't take off, you might see breeders turn them loose into the wild like what happened in Florida.


Most in this country have things people in other countries only dream about. Yet, they want America to be more like those other countries.
Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Wolfdog91] #8128954
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I rather raise chickens.

Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Guss] #8128958
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Originally Posted by Guss
I rather raise chickens.



Much more work and labor intensive. Daily work. Snakes don't need messed with a few times a week if that. Also less mess.

Not something I would want to eat unless I was very hungry though.

Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Wolfdog91] #8128982
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I would think the skin would be of more value than the meat. Maybe meat as a byproduct?


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Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Wolfdog91] #8129018
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The skin would definitely have value. With the right marketing as exotic the meat would have great value. But attempting to replace hog beef turkey and chicken with it makes no sense at all.


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Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8129031
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
and you thought goats were hard to keep in a pen

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Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Wolfdog91] #8129086
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Considering with the correct genetic stack and presenting colors my daughter can get $2,500 plus out of a hatchling eating them makes little since.

In warm climates and the starving 3rd world eating them because they are readable available would make since.

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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Guss
I rather raise chickens.



Much more work and labor intensive. Daily work. Snakes don't need messed with a few times a week if that. Also less mess.

Not something I would want to eat unless I was very hungry though.

Maybe so but a chicken can't rap the coiles around you .

Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Wolfdog91] #8129103
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The ball pythons Providence Farm is talking about max out at 4' and at most weigh 5 pounds. Most ball pythons don't even get that big. They are not large enough to be dangerous. Ball pythons are also picky eaters and unlikely to eat animals they aren't used to eating.

Keith

Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Joe1] #8129119
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Originally Posted by Joe1
went to a exotic auction a few years back a guy had 25 give or take first 2 or three brought 5 to 10 dollars couldnt get a bid on the rest they w e re full grown a young couple in local town had a new born baby the snake got loose and killed the baby i talked to the vet that put the snake down said the snake was really pretty and only doing what it does naturally i would have been the one that sold them that snake even when it wasnt their fault


Punctuation is important.

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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Considering with the correct genetic stack and presenting colors my daughter can get $2,500 plus out of a hatchling eating them makes little since.

In warm climates and the starving 3rd world eating them because they are readable available would make since.


Or sense.

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Originally Posted by Pirogue
Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Considering with the correct genetic stack and presenting colors my daughter can get $2,500 plus out of a hatchling eating them makes little since.

In warm climates and the starving 3rd world eating them because they are readable available would make since.


Or sense.


Have you read any of coon man's post? They should keep you busy!! Lol. Good catch, I would use the 3rd 16 hr shift in a roll as an excuse but that would be dishonest. Infact after my 3 Rd I got off helped a cousin with a welding job stopped by American Legacy fishing store and pick up a bate caster rod and real for my 13 year old. Eating at a Mexican place and heading back to work with zero sleep for 12 or 16 hrs. So I'm used to very little to no sleep.

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Originally Posted by KeithC
The ball pythons Providence Farm is talking about max out at 4' and at most weigh 5 pounds. Most ball pythons don't even get that big. They are not large enough to be dangerous. Ball pythons are also picky eaters and unlikely to eat animals they aren't used to eating.

Keith

Truth. My daughter brought up articulated pythons because they lay more eggs and boas. I didn't tell her no but did tell her I was not fond of have snakes around that are stronger than I am . She thought for a second said good point and that was the end of that. Honestly having snakes at all was a stretch for me but my daughter is smart made a good pitch and there is that daddy daughter thing where daughters had daddies wrapped around their finger thing that came into play as well.

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The economics of feeding something meat in order to produce meat does not sound good.


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Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Wolfdog91] #8129467
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Everglades has enough problem without adding to it. Can see where these could become the next Pit Bulls.


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Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: Wolfdog91] #8129494
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Sounds good in theory but so does a lot of things.

Re: Breeding pythons for meat [Re: waggler] #8129561
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Originally Posted by waggler
The economics of feeding something meat in order to produce meat does not sound good.



That and I wonder just what the feed conversion rate is on a reptile with a known slow metabolism.


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