Thanks for the clarification.

Montana and Wyoming each have goal of 100 wolves and Idaho 150. Even Colorado has plan to begin management at 200. Wisconsin a much smaller state with higher population a nothing even close to wilderness has 1,000 goal and new plan stated if delisted no season till they reach 1,200. How can they be endangered in these three states when our estimated population not counting wolves under 2 years old is over double the western states. This is just insane. On the doe shooting I’ve listened to multiple people all depressed about few deer and no bucks who apply for doe tags and shoot every doe their gang has tags for. I quit shooting does years ago and will tell these hypocrites to quit their whining as they are part of the problem It should be noted that in the western states with 14 years of management they havnt been able to get the wolves down we’re they want them and there are no quota areas in Wyoming and Idaho plus up to $2,000 bounty in Idaho. If delisted here and season starts the quota will be so small it will do nothing to reduce numbers. There are easily three times the number listed here when you add the under 2 year olds. There are uncollard pack’s everywhere. The DNR has no clue how many wolves their are. Same with bobcats. It took me 7 years for late season tag and cats are everywhere. In Minnesota every resident can go for 5 cats a year and their cat population exploded right along with ours. Much more could be said about Wisconsin mismanagement of cats. We have a crisis of poor management in Wisconsin.

Ok, I'm conflicted on this:

I'm jack by the way.

Jack, congratulations on reaching out about something you have an interest in. Being conflicted about something is natural and probanly contributes to critical thinking. If dont mind sharing it, I 'd be interested in reading your letter.

If your deer hunting area is one like up north we’re many areas have seen a steady decline in deer numbers no one should shoot does I called Chance Greens office and told them unless they get the wolf issue resolved nothing they do will matter. Decreasing deer numbers and increasing wolf numbers which is the case is leading to the end of a lifestyle up here. Heck! It already has. People will look back and say I can’t believe what we’ve allowed it’s just the plain sad.

As I address in my letter, I hunt in northern chippewa county, which is just barley in the northern forest zone. I have seen plenty of deer there.

I referred to our managers statement before when he told me that if hunters knew how many trophy bucks wolves kill during the rut they would kill every wolf they see. I’ve been a taxidermist full time for 40 years and where I use to mount an average of 65 bucks a year from my county now it’s almost none. Most of the deer I mount now come from other states Many of our best trophy buck hunters go else where now as they can’t find mature bucks anymore. No one shoots does on hundreds of private acres here and havnt for years and deer numbers are staying low. I often hear people say they have plenty of deer. We’ll talk is cheap, and all you have to do is look at how seldom you see road kill deer now to realize something has drastically changed. Oh and then someone will say well I just saw a road killed deer yesterday as if seeing one dead dear proves there are plenty of deer. Our deer hunting has been destroyed by wolves period. It’s easily provable. Most younger hunters have no idea the white tail paradise we use to have. I will never see it again and if something isn’t done about wolves it will get far worse.

I will add that I talked to people several years ago who although big bucks were few in there area they had good deer numbers. I told them just wait because as wolves wipe out certain areas of deer they move to greener pastures and it’s just a matter of time and your area will get hit and hit hard. Well now I’ve heard back from 2 of these people who told me how right I had been as now deer were scarce for them. It’s like our game manager told me 20 years ago , if your your hunting area is we’re wolves den you’re pretty much screwed. For the first time in 49 years a ten man hunting camp got zero deer this year. In the past even after super tuff winters their deer pole was impressive. No offense Jack but at 15 years old there is a lot you don’t know I hope you continue to have good hunting but up here our hunting has been ruined and that ruin is spreading.

I understand that. The only reason that I don't like the bill was the fact that the chippewa county forest was included. I am not familiar with the rest of the state, so I don't express an opinion on how there deer tags should be handled. I do know that the chippewa county forest ( northern chippewa county), where I and one or two hundred other hunters( rough estimate) hunt, has lots of deer and deer sign. In a month of hunting the the chippewa county forest, I saw roughly 2 dozen deer. One of these was a huge 12pt. All the rest of bow season (including the 3 weeks that I biked out after school to hunt every day), I hunted in southern Chippewa county (central farmland) and saw under 10 deer.

The proposed doe ban was flawed covering way to big of an area Chippewa county is central Wisconsin but on the northern half. It is deer paradise compared to northern Wisconsin. To anyone who thinks we don’t have a problem explain why 14 years ago for the first time taking a doe with a bow was banned without special permit which is very hard to get here. That ban is still in effect. Come up north 2 weeks after a snow and drive 100 miles on backroads and count deer tracks and get the point. You say leave the science to our professional managers. Our managers are a new generation of liberal educated people that don’t know much of anything about good management They are wolf lovers blinded to reality. They use a way conservative estimate for wolf population and don’t count wolves till their second year. In the last season forced on the DNR the February hunt the quota was doubled killing 219 wolves in 2 day’s. That’s over 20% of the entire state’s estimated population killed by a small number of permit holders in 2 day’s. Ya right! Those numbers show any thinking person how far off the wolf estimate is. They are everywhere you go There are many packs with no collar’s one with 14 in one pack all in one picture and no collars. And these things are on the endangered species list!! Really, and you call these people experts. People up here are really getting mad as reality is finally setting in , our deer hunting is disappearing and it’s not ever coming back without drastic action. It’s just plain sad.

I'd like to see some proof of that. There's very few hunters compared to 20-25 years ago. Many camps are long gone. Guys haven't been hunting northern Wisconsin to shoot does...those guys left a long time ago.