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FHA auction PT rat sales #8109309
03/27/24 08:33 PM
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walleyed Offline OP
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FHA has sold dumped more of my rats private treaty.

Have now sold 154 rats out of 233 with 79 yet unsold
for an underwhelming $2.62 average before commission & fees.

So much for no more PT sales after the last hammer drop !!! mad

We knew that assertion was going to be a fairy tale !!! frown

Should have sold to Groeny at the Rat Wagon !!!

w

Last edited by walleyed; 03/27/24 09:08 PM.

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Re: FHA auction PT rat sales [Re: walleyed] #8109313
03/27/24 08:38 PM
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western sales have averaged 3.50 ship to them.....know alot of guys from back east doing that.

Re: FHA auction PT rat sales [Re: walleyed] #8109327
03/27/24 08:46 PM
03/27/24 08:46 PM
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Yep sold most of mine. Just have the better quality rats left.

Re: FHA auction PT rat sales [Re: walleyed] #8109329
03/27/24 08:47 PM
03/27/24 08:47 PM
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Manitoba
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What is that phrase in Hamlet about the state of Denmark ?

Re: FHA auction PT rat sales [Re: walleyed] #8109336
03/27/24 08:50 PM
03/27/24 08:50 PM
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Yeah they sold 91 more of mine pt not the happiest about that


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Re: FHA auction PT rat sales [Re: Northof50] #8109345
03/27/24 08:59 PM
03/27/24 08:59 PM
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What I find irritating is that Mark Downey was auctioneer
for the muskrat and he barely spoke of most of the lots,
mumbled & fumbled around with the bid sheets, and
left most everyone scratching their heads & wondering
what the heck was going on & what happened ?

Now we're supposed to believe that the shy buyers got religion
later on and decided to buy after the fact ?

I don't know what it was they did with the muskrat
but it sure wasn't an auction !!!! mad

w

Last edited by walleyed; 03/27/24 09:01 PM.

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Re: FHA auction PT rat sales [Re: walleyed] #8109350
03/27/24 09:03 PM
03/27/24 09:03 PM
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Manitoba
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That was confusing! Had $4 written down on my sheet with a question mark. I got only one nicer one left. And Castors down from last year.

Re: FHA auction PT rat sales [Re: walleyed] #8109368
03/27/24 09:14 PM
03/27/24 09:14 PM
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Oregon
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Shakey, how do you know FHA castor is down from last year? You got intel I don't?


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Re: FHA auction PT rat sales [Re: walleyed] #8109375
03/27/24 09:21 PM
03/27/24 09:21 PM
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Frazee, MN
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I got less for my castor this year than lest year also.

Re: FHA auction PT rat sales [Re: walleyed] #8109389
03/27/24 09:34 PM
03/27/24 09:34 PM
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You guys are jumping to conclusions without any evidence.

FH operates with limited staff, unlike NAFA which had employees for each job. At FH, the same people that grade and lot the fur sell it as auctioneers. They also double as bus drivers to shuttle the buyers back and forth to Toronto. After 3 full days of auctioning, they are exhausted.

Just because the rats sold up as sold on your account, doesn’t mean they sold today.

I asked about some unsold ranch fox early Sunday morning, while the auction was still happening. They didn’t show in my buyer account until Tuesday morning. That was a legit sale

Give FH employees a break!! End of story!!!


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Re: FHA auction PT rat sales [Re: walleyed] #8109422
03/27/24 10:13 PM
03/27/24 10:13 PM
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So what should FHA do. A buyer buys say 40k rats for example at a certain level. There are 260K left and nobody wanted them. So the buyer says I will buy 60k more at the level I bought 40k. Should they hold them to the next sale or sell them? I mean there are still 200K rats unsold.If you want them step up to the plate and go buy them.

Last edited by Slick Pan; 03/27/24 10:14 PM.
Re: FHA auction PT rat sales [Re: walleyed] #8109450
03/27/24 10:35 PM
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BOHICAAAAAAA

Re: FHA auction PT rat sales [Re: wissmiss] #8109619
03/28/24 07:37 AM
03/28/24 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
You guys are jumping to conclusions without any evidence.

FH operates with limited staff, unlike NAFA which had employees for each job. At FH, the same people that grade and lot the fur sell it as auctioneers. They also double as bus drivers to shuttle the buyers back and forth to Toronto. After 3 full days of auctioning, they are exhausted.

Just because the rats sold up as sold on your account, doesn’t mean they sold today.

I asked about some unsold ranch fox early Sunday morning, while the auction was still happening. They didn’t show in my buyer account until Tuesday morning. That was a legit sale

Give FH employees a break!! End of story!!!


The sale was legit but they did sell the rats PT after the auction, which I have no problem with, except they said absolutely no PT sales. I watched the auction for the rats and the ones that sold on the floor where marked in my account same time as the rest. These lots did not sell, during the auction. They where lotted, catalogued and went no sale during the auction.

Once the fur is sent to auction totally out of our control, they are fairly upfront about that, its in the conditions of sale and they remind us every year by doing stuff like this.

Last point, this is a better outcome for muskrats then I was expecting. Was fully expecting a firesale, at $.50-$1.50 prices.

Re: FHA auction PT rat sales [Re: Saskfly] #8109626
03/28/24 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Saskfly
Originally Posted by wissmiss
You guys are jumping to conclusions without any evidence.

FH operates with limited staff, unlike NAFA which had employees for each job. At FH, the same people that grade and lot the fur sell it as auctioneers. They also double as bus drivers to shuttle the buyers back and forth to Toronto. After 3 full days of auctioning, they are exhausted.

Just because the rats sold up as sold on your account, doesn’t mean they sold today.

I asked about some unsold ranch fox early Sunday morning, while the auction was still happening. They didn’t show in my buyer account until Tuesday morning. That was a legit sale

Give FH employees a break!! End of story!!!


The sale was legit but they did sell the rats PT after the auction, which I have no problem with, except they said absolutely no PT sales. I watched the auction for the rats and the ones that sold on the floor where marked in my account same time as the rest. These lots did not sell, during the auction. They where lotted, catalogued and went no sale during the auction.

Once the fur is sent to auction totally out of our control, they are fairly upfront about that, its in the conditions of sale and they remind us every year by doing stuff like this.

Last point, this is a better outcome for muskrats then I was expecting. Was fully expecting a firesale, at $.50-$1.50 prices.


Saskfly this is accurate to what I witnessed as well.
Appears as I shed the bottom 30%. Of this stale collection [Linked Image]

Local chatter claiming $2.50- 2.80 all in average at the truck. These skewed numbers may have created opportunities.

Last edited by nimzy; 03/28/24 07:52 AM.
Re: FHA auction PT rat sales [Re: beaverpeeler] #8109628
03/28/24 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Shakey, how do you know FHA castor is down from last year? You got intel I don't?

Last year I got 7.28 oz and this year 4.05 oz for the good stuff. Should be in your lots…….if I’m reading it right. So I got $65 a lb this time.

Re: FHA auction PT rat sales [Re: Shakeyjake] #8109721
03/28/24 10:18 AM
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A lot of the averages this season near us were $.280 to $3.35 all in, so getting $.50-$2.70 on the bottom half to me is not that bad at all. I sold 6 for $2.57 and they were damaged, mediums, large and lower grades.

Bryce

Re: FHA auction PT rat sales [Re: walleyed] #8109733
03/28/24 10:41 AM
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I still own all my clean xl and up. -70% of the goods shipped. Everything caught after December 1.

Re: FHA auction PT rat sales [Re: walleyed] #8109734
03/28/24 10:42 AM
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All the damaged,slt dmg,sm,med and large sold. $2.60 average. XL,2X and 3X no go.

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